<DIV>É super fácil, Fabi,</DIV>
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<DIV>O Trebor deve já já te mandar e-mail te convidando para entrar no blog. Para postar, depois de você dar nome e senha, é só ir em <A href="http://www.typepad.com">www.typepad.com</A> e entar com a senha e nome e postar! Já pus um tantinho de coisa, vem mais!!</DIV>
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<DIV>Pro Brian escrevo mais à noite.</DIV>
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<DIV>Beijos</DIV>
<DIV>Ricardo</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Pessoal,</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN class=245163718-08042005></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2> <SPAN class=245163718-08042005>parece que trebor quer que utilizemos o mesmo blog que ele,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=+0><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><SPAN class=245163718-08042005></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2> <SPAN class=245163718-08042005>mas ainda não entendi como postar textos lá, ou se ele deu ou não</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN class=245163718-08042005></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2> <SPAN class=245163718-08042005>a senha. Por mim não tem problema que seja o mesmo blog,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>Rosas, fala tu com brian, tu escreve melhor em ingles</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>e entende mais do histórico do projeto.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>o email é: </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005><A href="mailto:brian.holmes@wanadoo.fr">brian.holmes@wanadoo.fr</A></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>sobre santo amaro,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>achei uma idéia legal por ser um projeto da Lúcia já em andamento,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN class=245163718-08042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>onde nos proporíamos (no final de maio) a apresentar nossas idéias sobre cartografias</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN class=245163718-08042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>e nosso trabalho em geral para</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN class=245163718-08042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>os alunos do Sesc santo Amaro do projeto DERIVAS,</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>Também teríamos equipamentos disponíveis para um dia</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>de deriva por santo amaro junto aos alunos.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>Essas coletas seriam apresentadas no mesmo dia, numa festa</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>à noite na praça central do sesc.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>também é possível que publiquemos alguns desses percursos e textos,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>numa possível revista ou site.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005> (será que entendi tudo certo?)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>é uma espécie de desafio para nosso grupo-muito-novo</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>escrever um resumo de palestra e já apresentar assim... de supetão.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>isso fortalecerá esse grupo e seria só o primeiro passo,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>depois ainda tem as idéias de pequeno e grande seminário,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>concomitantemente a organização de workshops</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>para que a própria população de são paulo, construa suas narrativas.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>foi isso que entendi das nossas conversas ontem.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>1º passo: Santo Amaro</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>2° passo: grupo com brian holmes (pequeno seminário)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>3º criação de estratégias de workshops para ampliar os modos de coletas e cartografias na cidade</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><FONT size=+0><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>4º possíveis</SPAN></FONT> <SPAN class=245163718-08042005>seminários tratando do tema, trazendo pesquisadores internacionais (grande)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>5º publicações</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>surgiu a idéia de nomadizarmos com o projeto pelos vários sescs e outras instituições de são paulo,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>fazendo workshops dentro desses espaços e acrescentando em nosso mapa.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>se alguém quizer acrescentar algo, por favor: FAÇA-O.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>abraços</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>fabiane.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN class=245163718-08042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV>> <FONT size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>> <FONT size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005> </SPAN>-----Mensagem original-----<BR><B>De:</B> edu-bounces@bbs.thing.net [mailto:edu-bounces@bbs.thing.net]<B>Em nome de </B>ricardorosas<BR><B>Enviada em:</B> terça-feira, 8 de março de 2005 12:23<BR><B>Para:</B> edu<BR><B>Assunto:</B> [mapping] Concerning the meeting on Monday<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
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<DIV>> Trebor and everybody,</DIV>
<DIV>> </DIV>
<DIV>> This message is in English for both Brazilians here and Trebor to understand, OK? </DIV>
<DIV>> </DIV>
<DIV>> The meeting on Monday was very stimulant! Lots of things were thought, envisioned and planned! <BR> <BR>So let´s start with more practical details. As for the map itself, it was decided the best region to explored, given the peolpe who will do the work and the best and appropriate conditions, is Santo Amaro, a district with lots of interesting charcteristics, related, among others, to migration, bad social conditions and such. Also, it´s good not to focus, by now, on downtown, but start with a small initiative, one that can be done more easily, also because Lucia is already working in the region. And also because, as it seems, there is lready a map from Santo Amaro being designed. Is it that way, Lucia? Lucia has got some people who can work on the software, such as making some changes, including the dots, maybe even thinking about uploads by cell phone. Such are things to be discussed, and Trebor may have some suggestions and instructions of the use of the software for Lucia. I do think it is a crucial thing to be to thought once that´s all what this project is about. </DIV>
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<DIV>> Second thing is the other steps on the involvement with the project. Artur Matuck suggested we to study some texts and stuff related to cartographies and maps, so there is the blog that Trebor opened for us to upload with our material and we need its log in and password. For the time being we´re already using a simpler blog opened by Fabiane (<A href="http://cartografias.blogspot.com/">http://cartografias.blogspot.com/</A>) in which some texts (in Portuguese) are already posted. It´s good that all of us post material we find essential. Let´s maybe just wait for Trebor to tell us the log ins and passwords to be used in the blog. </DIV>
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<DIV>> Following this are two possible events related to the project wich were suggested by Lucia and Artur. Lucia is having this small workshop in SENAC Santo Amaro in May called "Derivas" (Driftings), which will try to apply in a practical way some psychogeographical notions and explore the district with cameras, narratives, recorders, and such. Different driftings in the streets of Santo Amaro. The event may also host sort of a closed conference dealing with the Submap project, in which some of us will be presenting notions related to the project and goiving some basis on the current use of cartography. It will serve for us to know each other and also to write some material on the project and related subjects, such as the work of Trebor, the use of the city by social movements (in the case of Fabiane), Lucia´s work with cartographies, and such. We can likely have the presence of Brian Holmes (he´s currently in Argentina), who can be paid to come here and tell us his experiences with maps and its uses. At least we hope he can come - we´ve got to contact him as soon as possible, so, Fabi, don´t forget to send him an e-mail! From this event may also come out a publication, so it´s good for you all to think about a text related to the project. </DIV>
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<DIV>> But that publication may be released in another (now bigger) event which we´re thinking on suggesting SESC (that can very likely embrace it), that would deal with "Maps and Territories". For that, we can think of inviting some people to make lectures and even think about some sort of exhibition (I particularly thought about asking Brian Holmes and Bureau d`Etudes to send their maps to occupy a whole exhibition room in SESC Pompeia) and of course the release of the submap project along with the working map of Santo Amaro. That event would be done by the end of the second semester, and it´s something yet to be decided and thought with more time and detail.</DIV>
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<DIV>> Well, that was what we basically discussed. Any other details, please Fabi, Matuck and Lucia include here. All the others, please ask your doubts and questions!</DIV>
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<DIV>> Cheers<BR>Ricardo </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>