<DIV>Hi Lucia,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I think you should ask Trebor as for the software once it has many peculiarities which maybe just your students/programmers may understand. </DIV>
<DIV>Trebor even asked me to talk to you about that. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Best</DIV>
<DIV>Ricardo</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>> Hi everybody, </DIV>
<DIV>> </DIV>
<DIV>> I am looking to some articles on maps that I have written. As soon as</DIV>
<DIV>> I have found them I will post.</DIV>
<DIV>> (Unfortunatly it is not in English, yet...)</DIV>
<DIV>> </DIV>
<DIV>> For the seminar on carthographies, I suggest we invite:</DIV>
<DIV>> </DIV>
<DIV>> - Paola Berenstein Jacques, "Elogio aos errantes. Breve histórico das</DIV>
<DIV>> errâncias urbanas" In:</DIV>
<DIV>> http://www.vitruvius.com.br/arquitextos/arq000/esp256.asp</DIV>
<DIV>> </DIV>
<DIV>> - Maria Cecília Loschiavo dos Santos, professora da Faculdade de</DIV>
<DIV>> Arquitetura e Urbanismo (FAU) da USP. Livre-docência.</DIV>
<DIV>> Faculdade de Arquitetura e Urbanismo USP, FAU USP, Brasil. </DIV>
<DIV>> Título: Cidades de Plástico e Papelão. O habitat informal dos</DIV>
<DIV>> moradores de rua em São Paulo, Los Angeles e Tóquio, Ano de obtenção:</DIV>
<DIV>> 2003.</DIV>
<DIV>> </DIV>
<DIV>> ver : www.vivaocentro.org.br Morar na rua, uma tragédia humana.</DIV>
<DIV>> Informe Viva o Centro, São Paulo, p. 3- 3, 01 set. 2004.</DIV>
<DIV>> </DIV>
<DIV>> -Mapa da exclusão/inclusão social de Aldaíza Sposati </DIV>
<DIV>> http://www.comciencia.br/reportagens/ppublicas/pp11.htm</DIV>
<DIV>> </DIV>
<DIV>> - Evaldo Mocarzel, diretor de À Margem da Imagem (Documentário)</DIV>
<DIV>> </DIV>
<DIV>> </DIV>
<DIV>> Other important references:</DIV>
<DIV>> </DIV>
<DIV>> </DIV>
<DIV>> Livro/ Book: </DIV>
<DIV>> </DIV>
<DIV>> - SNOW, David; ANDERSON, Leon. Desafortunados: um estudo sobre o povo</DIV>
<DIV>> da rua. Petrópolis: Vozes, 1998.</DIV>
<DIV>> resenha em: http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S0104-71832004000100016&script=sci_arttext&tlng=pt</DIV>
<DIV>> </DIV>
<DIV>> - SNOW, David; ANDERSON, Leon. Down on Their Luck: A Study of Homeless</DIV>
<DIV>> Street People. University of California Press, 1993.</DIV>
<DIV>> </DIV>
<DIV>> Brian Holmes. Critique d'art, essayiste et traducteur, il vit à Paris et</DIV>
<DIV>> s'intéresse aux croisements entre art, économie politique et mouvements sociaux </DIV>
<DIV>> http://multitudes.samizdat.net/auteur.php3?id_auteur=465</DIV>
<DIV>> </DIV>
<DIV>> </DIV>
<DIV>> On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 12:22:42 -0300, ricardorosas</DIV>
<DIV>> <RICARDOROSAS@UOL.COM.BR>wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>> > Trebor and everybody,</DIV>
<DIV>> > </DIV>
<DIV>> > This message is in English for both Brazilians here and Trebor to</DIV>
<DIV>> > understand, OK? </DIV>
<DIV>> > </DIV>
<DIV>> > The meeting on Monday was very stimulant! Lots of things were thought,</DIV>
<DIV>> > envisioned and planned! </DIV>
<DIV>> > </DIV>
<DIV>> > So let´s start with more practical details. As for the map itself, it was</DIV>
<DIV>> > decided the best region to explored, given the peolpe who will do the work</DIV>
<DIV>> > and the best and appropriate conditions, is Santo Amaro, a district with</DIV>
<DIV>> > lots of interesting charcteristics, related, among others, to migration, bad</DIV>
<DIV>> > social conditions and such. Also, it´s good not to focus, by now, on</DIV>
<DIV>> > downtown, but start with a small initiative, one that can be done more</DIV>
<DIV>> > easily, also because Lucia is already working in the region. And also</DIV>
<DIV>> > because, as it seems, there is lready a map from Santo Amaro being designed.</DIV>
<DIV>> > Is it that way, Lucia? Lucia has got some people who can work on the</DIV>
<DIV>> > software, such as making some changes, including the dots, maybe even</DIV>
<DIV>> > thinking about uploads by cell phone. Such are things to be discussed, and</DIV>
<DIV>> > Trebor may have some suggestions and instructions of the use of the software</DIV>
<DIV>> > for Lucia. I do think it is a crucial thing to be to thought once that´s all</DIV>
<DIV>> > what this project is about. </DIV>
<DIV>> > </DIV>
<DIV>> > Second thing is the other steps on the involvement with the project. Artur</DIV>
<DIV>> > Matuck suggested we to study some texts and stuff related to cartographies</DIV>
<DIV>> > and maps, so there is the blog that Trebor opened for us to upload with our</DIV>
<DIV>> > material and we need its log in and password. For the time being we´re</DIV>
<DIV>> > already using a simpler blog opened by Fabiane</DIV>
<DIV>> > (http://cartografias.blogspot.com/) in which some texts (in Portuguese) are</DIV>
<DIV>> > already posted. It´s good that all of us post material we find essential.</DIV>
<DIV>> > Let´s maybe just wait for Trebor to tell us the log ins and passwords to be</DIV>
<DIV>> > used in the blog. </DIV>
<DIV>> > </DIV>
<DIV>> > Following this are two possible events related to the project wich were</DIV>
<DIV>> > suggested by Lucia and Artur. Lucia is having this small workshop in SENAC</DIV>
<DIV>> > Santo Amaro in May called "Derivas" (Driftings), which will try to apply in</DIV>
<DIV>> > a practical way some psychogeographical notions and explore the district</DIV>
<DIV>> > with cameras, narratives, recorders, and such. Different driftings in the</DIV>
<DIV>> > streets of Santo Amaro. The event may also host sort of a closed conference</DIV>
<DIV>> > dealing with the Submap project, in which some of us will be presenting</DIV>
<DIV>> > notions related to the project and goiving some basis on the current use of</DIV>
<DIV>> > cartography. It will serve for us to know each other and also to write some</DIV>
<DIV>> > material on the project and related subjects, such as the work of Trebor,</DIV>
<DIV>> > the use of the city by social movements (in the case of Fabiane), Lucia´s</DIV>
<DIV>> > work with cartographies, and such. We can likely have the presence of Brian</DIV>
<DIV>> > Holmes (he´s currently in Argentina), who can be paid to come here and tell</DIV>
<DIV>> > us his experiences with maps and its uses. At least we hope he can come -</DIV>
<DIV>> > we´ve got to contact him as soon as possible, so, Fabi, don´t forget to send</DIV>
<DIV>> > him an e-mail! From this event may also come out a publication, so it´s good</DIV>
<DIV>> > for you all to think about a text related to the project. </DIV>
<DIV>> > </DIV>
<DIV>> > But that publication may be released in another (now bigger) event which</DIV>
<DIV>> > we´re thinking on suggesting SESC (that can very likely embrace it), that</DIV>
<DIV>> > would deal with "Maps and Territories". For that, we can think of inviting</DIV>
<DIV>> > some people to make lectures and even think about some sort of exhibition (I</DIV>
<DIV>> > particularly thought about asking Brian Holmes and Bureau d`Etudes to send</DIV>
<DIV>> > their maps to occupy a whole exhibition room in SESC Pompeia) and of course</DIV>
<DIV>> > the release of the submap project along with the working map of Santo Amaro.</DIV>
<DIV>> > That event would be done by the end of the second semester, and it´s</DIV>
<DIV>> > something yet to be decided and thought with more time and detail.</DIV>
<DIV>> > </DIV>
<DIV>> > Well, that was what we basically discussed. Any other details, please Fabi,</DIV>
<DIV>> > Matuck and Lucia include here. All the others, please ask your doubts and</DIV>
<DIV>> > questions!</DIV>
<DIV>> > </DIV>
<DIV>> > Cheers</DIV>
<DIV>> > Ricardo </DIV>
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