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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Pessoal,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Parece que a reunião de segunda pegou fogo, que
legal.</FONT></DIV>Estou acompanhando todos os emails e assim que entregar a
monografia ( só mais 15 dias! ), entro com força. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Os textos indicados pela Lúcia e Ricardo são
super.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Santo Amaro será um território interessantíssimo.
</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>Moro por perto e tudo o quero de trabalhar é
completamente compatível. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Alguém tem algo sobre Santo Amaro ? Algo como
história da ocupação do bairro?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Eu também não consegui entender como ter senha para
o blog do Trebor, mas os textos estão lá.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Fabi, acho que é só ir até o Permalink e adicionar
um post.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>abraço, Mila</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=catadores@uol.com.br href="mailto:catadores@uol.com.br">catadores de
historias</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=edu@bbs.thing.net
href="mailto:edu@bbs.thing.net">edu@bbs.thing.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 08, 2005 3:58
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [mapping] sobre blogs e brians
holmes</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005> <FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff>Pessoal,</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma><SPAN class=245163718-08042005></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2> <SPAN class=245163718-08042005>parece que
trebor quer que utilizemos o mesmo blog que
ele,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=+0><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2> <SPAN class=245163718-08042005>mas ainda não entendi como postar
textos lá, ou se ele deu ou não</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN class=245163718-08042005></SPAN><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2> <SPAN
class=245163718-08042005>a senha. Por mim não tem problema que seja o mesmo
blog,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005>Rosas, fala tu com brian, tu escreve melhor em
ingles</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005>e entende mais do histórico do
projeto.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005>o email é: </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005><A
href="mailto:brian.holmes@wanadoo.fr">brian.holmes@wanadoo.fr</A></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005>sobre santo
amaro,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005>achei uma idéia legal por ser um projeto da
Lúcia já em andamento,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma><SPAN class=245163718-08042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>onde nos proporíamos (no final de maio) a apresentar nossas idéias
sobre cartografias</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN class=245163718-08042005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>e nosso trabalho em geral
para</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN class=245163718-08042005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>os alunos do Sesc santo Amaro do projeto
DERIVAS,</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005>Também teríamos equipamentos disponíveis para um
dia</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>de
deriva por santo amaro junto aos alunos.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005>Essas coletas seriam apresentadas no mesmo dia,
numa festa</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>à
noite na praça central do sesc.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005>também é possível que publiquemos alguns desses
percursos e textos,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>numa
possível revista ou site.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005> (será que entendi tudo
certo?)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>é
uma espécie de desafio para nosso grupo-muito-novo</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005>escrever um resumo de palestra e já apresentar
assim... de supetão.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>isso
fortalecerá esse grupo e seria só o primeiro passo,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005>depois ainda tem as idéias de pequeno e grande
seminário,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005>concomitantemente a organização de
workshops</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>para
que a própria população de são paulo, construa suas
narrativas.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>foi
isso que entendi das nossas conversas ontem.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>1º
passo: Santo Amaro</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>2°
passo: grupo com brian holmes (pequeno seminário)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005>3º
criação de estratégias de workshops para ampliar os modos de coletas e
cartografias na cidade</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><FONT size=+0><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005>4º possíveis</SPAN></FONT> <SPAN
class=245163718-08042005>seminários tratando do tema, trazendo pesquisadores
internacionais (grande)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005>5º publicações</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005>surgiu a idéia de nomadizarmos com o projeto pelos
vários sescs e outras instituições de são
paulo,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005>fazendo workshops dentro desses espaços e
acrescentando em nosso mapa.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005>se alguém quizer acrescentar algo, por favor:
FAÇA-O.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005>abraços</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005>fabiane.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=245163718-08042005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN class=245163718-08042005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=245163718-08042005> </SPAN>-----Mensagem
original-----<BR><B>De:</B> edu-bounces@bbs.thing.net
[mailto:edu-bounces@bbs.thing.net]<B>Em nome de </B>ricardorosas<BR><B>Enviada
em:</B> terça-feira, 8 de março de 2005 12:23<BR><B>Para:</B>
edu<BR><B>Assunto:</B> [mapping] Concerning the meeting on
Monday<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
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<DIV>Trebor and everybody,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>This message is in English for both Brazilians here and Trebor to
understand, OK? </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The meeting on Monday was very stimulant! Lots of things were thought,
envisioned and planned! <BR> <BR>So let´s start with more practical
details. As for the map itself, it was decided the best region to explored,
given the peolpe who will do the work and the best and appropriate
conditions, is Santo Amaro, a district with lots of interesting
charcteristics, related, among others, to migration, bad social conditions
and such. Also, it´s good not to focus, by now, on downtown, but start with
a small initiative, one that can be done more easily, also because Lucia is
already working in the region. And also because, as it seems, there is
lready a map from Santo Amaro being designed. Is it that way, Lucia? Lucia
has got some people who can work on the software, such as making some
changes, including the dots, maybe even thinking about uploads by cell
phone. Such are things to be discussed, and Trebor may have some suggestions
and instructions of the use of the software for Lucia. I do think it is a
crucial thing to be to thought once that´s all what this project is about.
</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Second thing is the other steps on the involvement with the project.
Artur Matuck suggested we to study some texts and stuff related to
cartographies and maps, so there is the blog that Trebor opened for us to
upload with our material and we need its log in and password. For the time
being we´re already using a simpler blog opened by Fabiane (<A
href="http://cartografias.blogspot.com/">http://cartografias.blogspot.com/</A>)
in which some texts (in Portuguese) are already posted. It´s good that all
of us post material we find essential. Let´s maybe just wait for Trebor to
tell us the log ins and passwords to be used in the blog. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Following this are two possible events related to the project wich were
suggested by Lucia and Artur. Lucia is having this small workshop in SENAC
Santo Amaro in May called "Derivas" (Driftings), which will try to apply in
a practical way some psychogeographical notions and explore the district
with cameras, narratives, recorders, and such. Different driftings in the
streets of Santo Amaro. The event may also host sort of a closed conference
dealing with the Submap project, in which some of us will be presenting
notions related to the project and goiving some basis on the current use of
cartography. It will serve for us to know each other and also to write some
material on the project and related subjects, such as the work of Trebor,
the use of the city by social movements (in the case of Fabiane), Lucia´s
work with cartographies, and such. We can likely have the presence of Brian
Holmes (he´s currently in Argentina), who can be paid to come here and tell
us his experiences with maps and its uses. At least we hope he can come -
we´ve got to contact him as soon as possible, so, Fabi, don´t forget to send
him an e-mail! From this event may also come out a publication, so it´s good
for you all to think about a text related to the project. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>But that publication may be released in another (now bigger) event
which we´re thinking on suggesting SESC (that can very likely embrace it),
that would deal with "Maps and Territories". For that, we can think of
inviting some people to make lectures and even think about some sort of
exhibition (I particularly thought about asking Brian Holmes and Bureau
d`Etudes to send their maps to occupy a whole exhibition room in SESC
Pompeia) and of course the release of the submap project along with the
working map of Santo Amaro. That event would be done by the end of the
second semester, and it´s something yet to be decided and thought with more
time and detail.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Well, that was what we basically discussed. Any other details, please
Fabi, Matuck and Lucia include here. All the others, please ask your doubts
and questions!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Cheers<BR>Ricardo </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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