I have not much to add to the discussion of the last day. I think both main points are true at the same time. 1) that youth today seem to have much less of a literate culture; 2) but at the same time, they are much mor autonomously and collective sharing/building a culture.
<br><br>So, I'm less pessimistic than Brian. Current generations are less inclined to fight 'against', and so might seem passive from an activist point of view, but they are qualitatively differently constructing their lives autonomously and collectively. They are more distrustful of media and institutions than we were 30-50 years ago (see edelman trust barometer).
<br><br>This echoes my own experience when I was in a class of American students here in Chiang Mai 2 years ago: yes, they knew very little about the 'facts' of the world (no one new the name of Khadafy, to mention just one), but on the other hand, the level of sharing, mutual support, and civility was way beyond my own experience when I was a student.
<br><br>I have a question to Brian though, something that has bothered me. How would you define fascism, in your claim that we are descending into fascism? Of course, I'm not denying that we're experiencing a securization pattern after 9/11, but fascism?
<br><br>Michel<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 1/3/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">john sobol</b> <<a href="mailto:john@johnsobol.com">john@johnsobol.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
A developer friend posted these interesting links on my blog<br>today...they are all projects that constructively address the notion of<br>Continuous Peripheral Attention and what I find notable is that they<br>all do so by moving beyond literate interfaces... worth a look if
<br>they're unfamiliar to you, as they were to me...<br><br><br><a href="http://tangible.media.mit.edu/projects/ambientroom/">http://tangible.media.mit.edu/projects/ambientroom/</a><br><br><a href="http://www.schulzeandwebb.com/2005/cpa/">
http://www.schulzeandwebb.com/2005/cpa/</a><br><br><a href="http://www.boxesandarrows.com/view/ambient_signifi">http://www.boxesandarrows.com/view/ambient_signifi</a><br><br><br>I'm not trying to defend anything here, just adding to the discussion,
<br>which has been useful, as usual...<br><br>j<br><br><br>--<br>john sobol<br><a href="http://www.thetalkingshop.ca">www.thetalkingshop.ca</a><br><a href="http://www.johnsobol.com">www.johnsobol.com</a><br><br><br>_______________________________________________
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