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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>1: I Use SL as a tool in class, and I have
just about EVERY type in my classes.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=GramE><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>An orthodox Jew living in
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color:navy'>San Francisco</span></font></st1:place></st1:City><font size=2
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Amman</span></font></st1:place></st1:City><font
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color:navy'>New</span></font></st1:PlaceName><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><st1:PlaceType><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>School</span></font></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> in NYC<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>2 Brazilians<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>- Interactive Arts &
Media<br>
Columbia College, Chicago<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>"It
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color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-no-proof:
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> idc-bounces@bbs.thing.net
[mailto:idc-bounces@bbs.thing.net] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf
Of </span></b>Skawennati Tricia Fragnito<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, February 01, 2007
7:09 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Chris Byrne; IDC list<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [iDC] Second Life as
educational tool</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I am pretty sure that that critique sucked! It
is true that SL is very White, but, guess what: so is the Internet! I am sorry,
dear list members, that I do not have the mental bandwidth to write a decent
critique of this critique, but I just had to put in my two cents. Maybe I
just don't have the time to talk about all the things that are wrong with what
Destiny wrote (though Chris mentioned some biggies!). I really hate it
when people think that minorities who have the same values as middle class
White people -- "</span></font><font color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>university education, an open mind, a
thirst for learning" (according to Destiny)--</span></font> are no longer
being true to their culture. Damn!<o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>This Mohawk/Italian chick, who considers herself
fortunate indeed to have a university education, is now going to her Second
Life where she meets up with other artists, nerds, Indians, and Others to chat,
have fun, make art and (dare i day it???) change the world.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>!!!!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Love,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Skawennati aka xox Voyager<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <img border=0 width=32 height=32
id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:a06230904c1e83a6730bc@%5b192.168.0.5%5d.1.0"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>At 8:36 PM +0000 1/31/07, Chris Byrne wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>At the risk of being known as "the guy who just
forwards snippets from The Register", I thought I would.....you get the
picture.<br>
<br>
I'm not at all sure about this critique of Second Life, in some respects it is
highly subjective, has a phobia about feminists, and is a tad narcissistic (but
then it is about a fantasy role play).<br>
<br>
"Second Life is perhaps the whitest environmet I've ever experienced, and
the most middle-class: I'm hard pressed to recall a single conversation with an
undeucated resident. By and large, everyone is playing, and everyone has a
fairly healthy bank account, as the basic costs of entry - even for a free
account - are dictated by some rather pricey computing parephrenalia (sic).
Everyone is concerned with arts and science, and speaks with pride about
information technology; everyone likes to learn; everyone believes in progress.
It is, literally, an online white suburban paradise."<br>
<br>
Whoever thought virtual reality could bring up so many 'real' issues?<br>
<br>
My big, fat, lily-white Second Life<br>
By Destiny Welles<br>
Published Tuesday 30th January 2007 15:11 GMT<br>
<br>
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/30/lily_white_and_not_loving_it/<br>
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