<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Thanks all, once again, for a fascinating discussion. <div><br></div><div>And ... not to go off point here .... just to tangentially follow Jesse's/Sean's thread as it may prove to be a salient factor for consideration. How does one define the pursuit of the ( illusionary ) American dream + the permutations thereof into the globalopolis during this time frame of the early 21st century and the concretization of a technocracy ? And during an era where "ownership" is a moving target, shifting at the rate of a nano-second- where corporate structural displacement serves as one base mechanism of our collective foundation - not to mention consciousness ?</div><div><br></div><div>Chris<br><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jun 25, 2009, at 8:39 AM, Jesse Drew wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>The lack of a self-identifying working class has vexed labor activists <br>in the US for many decades, and countless theories have arisen to <br>explain this phenomenon. There is no doubt that it has also been part <br>of a conscious strategy pursued by US manufacturers and businesses. <br>One extremely simple yet effective tactic was the widespread adoption <br>of so-called "flex-time" in the 1970s/1980s that gave workers the <br>option to arrive at work at different times but within a limited <br>window and all but eliminated punching into the time clock. This <br>seemingly progressive reform gives the illusion of individual agency <br>and served to atomize the workforce. Standing with your co-workers <br>hundreds strong in a time card line is vastly different than everyone <br>sneaking into work one by one. The internet and computer-based work <br>greatly accentuates the illusion that there is no "class" of workers, <br>just individuals pursuing the American dream.<br><br>Jesse<br><br><br>On Jun 24, 2009, at 8:52 PM, Sean Cubitt wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">I read some stat in the dim past to the effect that 90% (or some <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">equally<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">compelling number) of US citizens identify themselves aa middle class.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">This wd suggest that class consciousness has also been colonised as a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">hegemonic regime.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On the other hand, more explicitly class-conscious models can be <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">divisive.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Debate raged in Socialist Worker circles in the 1980s (following the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">establishment of the Party, as opposed to the looser group that <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">existed<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">before) as to whether teachers and civil servants were working- <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">class. Those<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">coming in from the 'workerist' perspective saw them as culturally <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">different.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Those form the class-analysis perspective (Christian's 'objective') <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">saw them<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">as lacking control over their means of production. Two <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">interpretations: a)<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">keeping class solidarity (cultural, 'subjective') maintains the <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">coherence of<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">a revolutionary / radical program b) excluding potential allies who <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">share<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">the same objective conditions weakens the same program numerically.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">In the case of internet, what exactly are the means of production? <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">In the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">case of computers, 'control' need not imply ownership. In the case of<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">networks, ditto (regarding distinctions between bandwidth providers, <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">ISPs,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">regulatory bodies etc). Here ownership is always elsewhere (as in the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">protected zone sof proprietary software), and control meticulously<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">displaced. Ergo there is an objective class structure.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The production of a class consciousness is precluded by the <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">atomisation and<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">individuation of terminals. The language issue also raises itse;f: and<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">suggests that classic class analysis is premised on something very <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">like a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">national base, with solidarity at inter-national level- unlike our <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">current<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">translocal condition. Ergo the networkers of the world constitute a <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">class<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">without a consciousness.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">(Against my own argument: perhaps in a knowledge economy we also shd<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">include knowledge as means of production. The objective analysis <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">becomes<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">difficult, and opens up on the perspective of 'general intellect' as <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">an<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">organising principle in addition to traditional class analysis)<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I really shd be marking . . .<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Sean<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On 25/06/09 11:20 AM, "Christian Fuchs" <<a href="mailto:christian.fuchs@sbg.ac.at">christian.fuchs@sbg.ac.at</a>> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Brian brought up an interesting question:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Is it possible to conceive a class as Marx did,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">without a notion of a potential class consciousness?<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Is it important<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">in your theory to understand the audience as, at least<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">potentially, a class with a consciousness, a class for<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">itself? If so, how would you -- or do you -- see such<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">consciousness developing and expressing itself?<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I think you can conceive class in subjective terms based on class<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">consciousness and in objective terms based on the position in the<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">relations of production. In Hegelian Marxism, this distinction is <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">based<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">in the distinction between being-in-itself, being-for-itself,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">being-in-and-for-itself. Marx distinguished between class-in-itself <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">and<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">class-for-itself.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">For me, the fundamental aspect is the class-in-itself that exists <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">even<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">if there is no class consciousness. The important political <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">question is<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">how a class-in-itself becomes a class-in-and-for-itself. People like<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Ulrich Beck have a purely subjective, idealistic notion of class, <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">which<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">allows them to argue that a lack of class consciousness means that we<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">live in a post-class-age, a risk society that is not a class society,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">etc. I think class is more important than ever, becaue the objective<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">class differences are so huge. My analysis is that objectively<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">(concerning the means of production) we are as close to communism as<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">never before, the means of production have a highly socialized and<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">co-operative character - the Internet is characteristic of it -, but<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">subjectively (concening class consciousness and ideology) we are so <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">far<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">from communism as never before. This is a highly paradox situation. <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">The<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">question therefore is how a class-in-itself can become a<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">class-in-and-for-itself. This can only be the result of a politcal<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">process, and there is no automatic transition to this state, it can <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">only<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">be self-organized by human subjects. It is a question of political<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">strategy and of class struggle, to which there are no pre-given or<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">pre-defined answers. So the question boils down to: What are the<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">perspectives for class struggles today? And in respect to media: <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Which<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">role can ICTs besides their dominative character have <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">constructively in<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">class struggles?<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">It is hard to generalize asusmptions about the class consciousness of<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Internet users from theory - here empirical research is also needed <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">in<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">order to identify potentials. For me it is rather hard to see and<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">identify radical class consciousness on the Internet, so I think <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">these<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">are more objective potentials than subjective ones, which is to say <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">that<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">there are more co-operative potentials in technology than critical<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">consciousness on the Internet. There are huge potentials for human<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">development, but they are not-yet realized, today they remain largely<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">unrealized. 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0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 9px/normal 'Century Gothic'; text-align: center; "><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div style="min-height: 11px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 9px/normal 'Century Gothic'; text-align: center; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#A49D9C">LOS ANGELES I SAN FRANCISCO</font></div><div style="min-height: 11px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 9px/normal 'Century Gothic'; text-align: center; "><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; text-align: center; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Futura" size="2"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#6A6665">The present age prefers the sign to the thing signified, the copy to the original, fancy to reality, </font></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; text-align: center; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Futura" size="2"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#6A6665">the appearance to the essence </font></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; text-align: center; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Futura" size="2"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#6A6665">for in these days</font></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; text-align: center; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Futura" size="2"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#6A6665"> illusion</font></font><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Futura" size="2"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#6A6665"> only<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>is sacred, truth profane.</font></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; text-align: center; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Futura" size="1"><i style="font-size: 9px; font-style: italic; font-family: Futura; text-align: center; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#6A6665"><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></font></i></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; text-align: center; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Futura" size="1"><i style="font-size: 9px; font-style: italic; font-family: Futura; text-align: center; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#6A6665">Ludwig Feuerbach, 1804-1872,</font></i></font><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Futura" size="1"><i style="font-size: 9px; font-style: italic; font-family: Futura; text-align: center; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#6A6665"> </font></i></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; text-align: center; 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