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<DIV>Hey Andrew Delighted to meet up again. Will you be at the
conference?</DIV>
<DIV>As for governance I have been using the term in relation
to capitalism and the market influenced by Foucault's treatment of
neoliberalim and biopolitics in the last 3 sets of English translated
lectures. </DIV>
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<DIV>I think the lectures show some difference from the way Deleuze read them in
terms of control So I am working on that and I am
forever engaged with measure statistics, probability and
beyond. More coming at the conference. Patricia
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<DIV>In a message dated 10/18/2009 7:50:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
aherman@wlu.ca writes:</DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>First,
let me say a hearty hello to Patricia. It seems fitting that we would
reconnect digitally about digital labor after all these years.<BR><BR>Second,
I wondering if Patricia can clarify her statement about the difference between
capital/capitalism/and capitalist "governance". What does your understanding
of "governance" have in common with the Focauldian concept of governmentality?
You mention "biopower" fleetingly in your ruminations on digital labor but,
suprisingly, you don;t mention it again when you speak of measurement and
control of affect and "lifiness".<BR><BR>It seems to me that governance is
rather different than governmentality but I would be curious to hear what you
think before holding forth.<BR><BR>Second, I am also curious about Patricia's
stated obsession with measurement. How is possible to measure surplus value or
exploitation when one moves from material to immaterial labor? Was it ever
possible in the first place? If you recall, Marxist political economy kind of
ran off the rails in the 70's trying to find the holy grail of measuring
surplus value (i.e. Pierio Sraffa, etc). Why bother? <BR><BR><BR>Andrew Herman
<BR><BR>P.S. BTW, the bathroom scene was perfect.<BR><BR>Andrew Herman, Ph.
D.<BR>Associate Professor and Chairperson<BR>Department of Communication
Studies<BR>Graduate Program in Cultural Analysis and Social Theory<BR>Wilfrid
Laurier University<BR>Waterloo, Ontario N2L 3C5<BR>CANADA<BR>519 884-1970
x3693<BR><BR>"I am not a benevolent God."<BR>Chuck
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