<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: -1; "></span></div></blockquote><br></div><div>This discussion, copied below for reference, between Jaime and Brad underscores the failure scholars have had in framing the crisis in education. One person or even groups of individuals cannot alter the nature of education. It is the framing of the crisis, and framing this crisis in such a fashion that the old system's bad behaviors are not even mentioned. We all know, IN THEORY, that the crisis is only deepened by challenging the status quo directly. We must find a by-pass around it.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Every possible door to creating an analysis of the natures of the current system has been found and tightly closed. This is the core nature of the system, since it is a system that has accomplished specific things.</div><div><br></div><div>1) The ability to protect itself and those whose are consistent with the "coherence" of the set of its systemic natures. </div><div>2) It maintains a complete coherence to a complex and yet simple social-economic-political phenomenon, something we call the "singular coherence".</div><div>3) Pretense, it pretends to teach and the students pretend to learn.</div><div><br></div><div>How these natures formed is seen as a type of induction, and yet because the language of induction exposes it natures, the concept of induction is part of what must be hidden. To hid this real natural phenomenon the very nature of induction is misrepresented. Induction is not a form of deduction. Computers are not capable of induction. </div><div><br></div><div>In The Education Bridge, we develop the notion of mono-coherence, and contrast this with multi-coherence. We also identify three principles that describe the natures of physical reality, and yet each of these principles are not part of any college or university curriculum. These three principles are:</div><div><br></div><div>a) emergence</div><div>b) non-locality</div><div>c) induction</div><div><br></div><div>Understanding what is known about these three principles sets up a new type of frame within which educators may architect a new system of education, and at the same type heal the wounds caused by the current system.</div><div><br></div><div><i>The Education Bridge</i> is a proposal to President Obama for an expenditure of one hundred million dollars (Phase I) over eighteen months, creating a bridge between high school and college. This bridge will be completely independent from ownership or control from "private interests", such as corporation or existing school boards or colleges or universities. The mechanism that are involved in the induction of a set of self serving natures will be separated from mechanisms that aid the individual human being in learning.</div><div><br></div><div>The Bridge is to be a 100% monitored dedicated immersive Virtual World system. There will be a staff and governing board consisting of public servants, whose job and performance is to be measured based on outcome metrics. However, these metrics will be created using a balance between the supply of curriculum and the aggregated demand of "all" sixteen, seventeen or eighteen year old American citizens. </div><div><br></div><div>The Bridge will also serve as a the first complete manifestation of citizen centric e-governance. </div><div><br></div><div>The definition of "demand pedagogy" and the reasons why the Bridge is designed in a specific fashion are given in <i>The Education Bridg</i>e pdf:</div><div><br></div><div>www.educationWorlds.com/bridge.pdf </div><div><br></div><div>Given an interest in talking about this new vision, we are prepared to engage in this discussion. Given grieving about the current system, we will remain silent. While compassion is felt towards the many that are injured by our educational system, we see that grieving reinforces the very mechanisms through which that system protects itself. </div><div><br></div><div>The future is bright.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">On Sun, 6 Jun 2010, Jaime Magiera wrote:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> <br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I understand people are frustrated with academia right</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">now. However, it's a cyclical thing. I don't think the</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">mental purse-strings are being tightened forever more. If</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">the system was an absolute failure, it would not have</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">provided an avenue for Ricardo or anyone else with radical</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">notions in the first place.</div> <br></blockquote><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Right now?? I would describe academia ('tertiary education')</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">as a patently absurd, increasingly restrictive, exclusive,</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">downward, whorled societal pandemic... (close-knit</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">collegial-colleagues perpetuate the professorial-ponzi:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">maybe this is why lately,) I've continued to be denied</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">academic employment -- going on 25+ years! and have had to</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">scramble independently for knowledge, real-world connections</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">and practical/radical ideas that I was obviously mostly</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">missing while wasting time garnering worse than worthless</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">degrees.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> <br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Giving up on academia is a bad idea -- particularly if we</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">don't have systems to pick up the slack. Our future as a</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">society, as a world, depends on literacy, the ability to</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">reason and the ability to work with others. Academia</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">provides that at various levels. Instead of dropping out</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">of education, we should be dropping in. Building</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">alternatives to social media and education are good -- but</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">their usefulness is determined not necessarily by how many</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">outside people utilize them, but how many "ordinary"</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">citizens use them. If we abandon education and social</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">media, we're left with alternatives that preach to the</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">choir. We need the radical thought to be integrated into</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">mainstream avenues. Otherwise, those who don't have a clue</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">will never get one. The educational track, which middle to</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">upper class citizens follow by default, will be devoid of</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">any radical elements. No new people will get turned on to</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">new ideas.</div> <br></blockquote><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">One of the many problems with academia (again, tertiary</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">education) is that it inevitably erects - exclusive, mostly</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">monetary - walls around its domain and then proclaims any</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">imported influence or even natural societal/cultural</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">undergraduate development as somehow a unique result of its</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">validated provenance. (You can now plaster those university</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">decals on your rear automobile window, and gain access to</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">nearly identical corporate ponzi schemes.) As if this</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">couldn't possible happen anywhere else. It surely does(!)</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">and more 'radically' and effusively than any</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">academia-prospectus could ever pretend to proffer.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">As-to social-media: I tried that route and my 5000-friend FB</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">account was just disabled due to an anonymous complaint</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">about a depicted nipple in one of my photo-galleries! Of</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">course the corporation never responds to its friends or even</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">shareholders, but I suspect the objection was really over my</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">new "profile portrait museum." You can see the newly minted</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">project here: <a href="http://cart.iabrace.com">http://cart.iabrace.com</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> <br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Brad, you and I had a conversation about the benefits of</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">honey vs. vinegar, dropping in vs. dropping out over 10</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">years ago on the Rumori list. I think that is still</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">apropos.</div> <br></blockquote><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Jaime, yes I remember our exchanges, but I'm (obviously) not</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">comfortable saying one thing in the hopes of actually,</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">eventually-maybe-or-probably-never, doing something else.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> <br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Jaime Magiera</div></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></body></html>