<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><br></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">IDC forum:</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Helvetica">Our recent discussion regarding a knowledge hierarchy tracks one of the themes of our proposal to President Obama, creating a new three dimensional simulation world to support liberal education, specifically transition from high school to college.</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="4" color="#001ee6" style="font: 13.0px Helvetica; color: #001ee6"><a href="http://www.liftingpedagogy.com/">http://www.liftingpedagogy.com</a></font><font face="Helvetica" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Helvetica">/</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Helvetica">The purpose of this proposal is to address the social need for educated citizens, not necessarily for a trained work force. The cart should be placed behind the horse. </font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Helvetica">Our argument is that present society is overly consumer oriented. Training individuals to be participants in this consumer economy has real long term dangers. We take one additional step and suggest that science as practiced today is controlled by a consumer orientation. We have a perceptual blind spot which we cannot resolve without looking at the philosophical origins of scientific reductionism. We must turn to the humanities. </font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Helvetica">Science as practiced has left no avenue unguarded to allow a review of its foundations. We create a paradox, since this investigation is inconsistent with the view that science has of itself. Science is less and less open to an inquiry into its foundational assertions. </font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Helvetica">Perhaps the increasing cultural rejection of basic instruction in elementary college level mathematics is a systemic balance to an incorrect elevation of science to a type of ritualistic practice. one that is purely utilitarian in nature. Such a systemic phenomenon might not have any possibility of description using reductionistic science. Thus science has the ability to capture itself so that it may ignore the paradox. </font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Helvetica">More generally, science, as practiced may not have the ability to handle a class of open questions: induction, non locality, or emergence of a whole having properties different from any sum of its parts. <a href="http://www.liftingpedagogy.com/pdf/DigitalSocialMedia.pdf"><font color="#001ee6" style="color: #001ee6">http://www.liftingpedagogy.com/pdf/DigitalSocialMedia.pdf</font></a></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Helvetica">The situation is humbling, to say the least. </font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Helvetica">The position taken is that current science, and the underlying mathematics, is flawed because it creates the impression of ontological correctness, e.g., a perfect match between nature and the sciences or mathematics. This match, or any mismatch, is central to various philosophical traditions, including those from the Buddhist culture. </font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Helvetica">The approach made by Dharmakirti, a seventh century Asian philosopher comes to mind. John Dune's book, Foundations of Dharmakiri's Philosophy, lays out the issues, using a conceptual device called "commentarial strata". The device has a long lineage in Buddhist scholarship, the history of which is reviewed also in Dune's book. In my mind, the nature of commentarial strata is related to a central teaching of the Buddha; e.g., that there are three types of learning; each which is conceptualized by an ontological consideration: knowledge of self, knowledge of other, knowledge of self and other. A core result is that these three types of learning are not "coherent" with each other, because of the nature of existence. The universe is multi-coherent. </font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Helvetica">In other words, there is no theory of knowledge that creates a single "universally best" "coherent" system for understanding human experience. </font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Helvetica">The use of stratification is central also to how the Bridge technology and its knowledge management mechanisms are designed, although the approach is based on the logics of J. S Mill and C S Pierce as synthesized in Soviet era cybernetics. A review of this work would take some time, but in essence relies on a systems' theory in which no system is fully "isolated" from a system of systems having non local interaction, organizational stratification, emergence and induction (at a distance). Thus formal models based on a strong form of coherence must fail to model the system perfectly. A means to generate a situational grounding, using observation, logics and logical atoms is then required. This generative architecture is discussed at reverseTwitter.com. Particular instance to universal category reification theory is involved and the work is challenging.</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Helvetica">The classical hierarchy is that of a philosophical framing for all social exchange of knowledge, with mathematics arising from that framing and with science being served by mathematical "truth". The failure of Western philosophy is in NOT holding this line. </font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Helvetica">Perhaps is is ok to suggest that the framing got lost in mal-formed inquiries about a supposed separation between mind and body. In any case, our culture is not well served by this cognitive distinction between a mind and a body (see John Eccles work on the mind body interface in probability space mediated by ATP conversion of energy at the sub cellular level in neurons). </font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Helvetica">The cultural need is that humanities establish a theory of knowing, an epistemology, which informs us about how we as a human society constructs formal representations within the sense of coherence. </font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Helvetica">Ah, there is the rub; coherence as a measure of truthfulness.</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Helvetica">Coherence as a measure of coherence, as in logical rationalism. But perhaps Godel and Church and Roger Penrose point out that the world is not precisely perfectly coherent. The discussion has long historical roots in both the East and the West.</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Helvetica">There is evidence that a multi-coherent science will soon develop so as to address issues now too often left outside of our view of the physical world, and outside of our educational system. </font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Helvetica">The humanities could lead in this effort. </font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Helvetica">Steve Prueitt</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="4" color="#001ee6" style="font: 13.0px Helvetica; color: #001ee6"><a href="mailto:psp@educationWorlds.com">psp@educationWorlds.com</a></font><font face="Helvetica" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Helvetica"> </font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Helvetica">also posted at <font color="#001ee6" style="color: #001ee6"><a href="http://www.liftingpedagogy.com/papers/knowledgeHierarchy.html">http://www.liftingpedagogy.com/papers/knowledgeHierarchy.html</a></font></font></div></div><div><font face="Helvetica" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Helvetica"><br></font></div></body></html>