<br>HI Blake: <br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Blake Stimson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:blakestimson@gmail.com">blakestimson@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
That is, there is none of the "expand their minds nonsense" that is the foundation of our civil-social, political, and cultural heritage but instead a vocational, train-for-the-test, bottom-line approach. This becomes brutally so in the Lebed video.<br>
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In sum, the "iCollege" notion privatizes not simply because it is a for-profit model but because it turns education into a consumer good and students into consumers. What drops out in the process is the liberal idea of education as the public exchange and public development of ideas and what ends up in its place is the vocational idea of the market as the private exercise of entrepreneurial initiative and the private exchange of consumer goods.</blockquote>
<div><br></div><div>I agree with you that this is truly the heart of the matter, and it's important to point out the commodification of education and the impoverishment of our ideas about education and its role in society where we see it occurring. But I also think the relationship between education as a private and a public good is more subtle and interrelated.</div>
<div><br></div><div>For one, I don't see vocational forms of education as necessarily inferior. The original vocation, after all, was the ministry and the original reason for the American Ivy League was to prepare ministers. "The bottom line" is also a very deep part of our heritage, and organized education's incredible power to make people and communities prosperous is an inextricable part of its power and centrality in Western society. Paradoxically, the kind of education that tends to do that the most is the elite liberal arts, mind-expanding model. </div>
<div><br></div><div>The DIY U model as I see it, is about forming a real alternative to organized education. In its focus on learners' needs it has the potential to empower learners as individuals, not just as consumers. </div>
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