>>On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:13 PM, John Bell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:john@novomancy.org">john@novomancy.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><br>
So the question I'm left with is how to create incentives that go beyond
status in the internal community. Can external incentives be used
without creating the equivalent of Warcraft gold farmers? What would
they be?<br>
<br>The concept of internal vs external incentives is a very interesting one in this case. <br>When you're talking about learning& scholarship, as opposed to Amazon reviews, you're talking about a community that extends beyond any particular peer group on any particular platform. Academic disciplines are global in scale and of relevance to humanity writ large (if they're not, then they deserve to wither and die). Therefore there's a very strong existing organic reputation based system for professional scholars: citation and peer review. It's not internal to any one organization, though it is internal to each discipline. <br>
<br>Here's an example, via Stian Haklev on Google Reader, of a couple of different existing systems for representing the "score" of a particular academic based on their citations:<br><br><a href="http://blogs.plos.org/mfenner/2011/07/27/google-scholar-citations-researcher-profiles-and-why-we-need-an-open-bibliography/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+plos%2Fblogs%2Fmfenner+%28Blogs+-+Gobbledygook%29">http://blogs.plos.org/mfenner/2011/07/27/google-scholar-citations-researcher-profiles-and-why-we-need-an-open-bibliography/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+plos%2Fblogs%2Fmfenner+%28Blogs+-+Gobbledygook%29</a><br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">So the question would be, to what extent is it feasible to represent a similar type of score, based on references to their previous statements, for amateur scholars? That would be an interesting example of an incentive that's both internal and external. <br>
a<br><br>ps John Hopkins writes:<br><br>>>I believe that the embodied meatspace messiness of the<br>
encounter of the Self with the (unknown) Other is the baseline for any social<br>
learning process...A community without any f-2-f component who attempts this generation of relevant knowledge promulgates an increasing degree of deeply operating alienation...<br><br>Perhaps if we were f-2-f I could understand what you're trying to say.<br>
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