<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Verdana; min-height: 13px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Hi Joseph,</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Verdana; min-height: 13px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">was not online, but no time today to write a reply.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">but ok, I'm here now ;-), you can edit the page and make some corrections or improve the presentation I began.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">As I told you, this editing was a draft ready for a further exploration and writing. Most of things come out from copy/paste of various texts, messages, archives, etc. I have compiled along the years.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Verdana; min-height: 13px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I'm sure that we can develop a better text and presentation.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Verdana; min-height: 13px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Are you all ok to participate to the wiki ?</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">My proposition is to write a series of texts, based on interviews, archives' probing, etc. which can offer various aspects of TT : documentation, studies, essays, notes, reports, etc.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">A large part could concern graphic (and sound) documentation (photos, videos, etc.).</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Thus we can cross information (from different sources and references) and validate the outputs.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">And the better, I think, it's to do it together...</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Verdana; min-height: 13px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Verdana; min-height: 13px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">sounds good ?</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Verdana; min-height: 13px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Verdana; min-height: 13px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Joseph, to go swiftly, what are the parts you don't include within the Wikipedia presentation ?</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I answer to your question below.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Verdana; min-height: 13px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">BTW I'm interested to translate it for the French Wikipedia.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I know that one French editor (maybe in collaboration with another French one) could be interested in publishing a French book about TT history. Maybe the better idea is to do our collective work about editing (on the wiki for instance), and the final output could be published (in English, German and French, and .... according to the editors who are ready).</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Verdana; min-height: 13px; "><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Verdana; min-height: 13px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">And thanks Caspar,</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I guess I've got other archives on my hds, but the recollection requires more time and to take a period of work to achieve or to approach a reliable publication (weeks). And I guess it will be more simple when the whole TT archive (servers) will be online to recover information and documentation. As I said, our editing work, such as studies, essays and reports, will concern the enlightment of art aspects of the TT projects...</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">If you are interested in, here are some documentation (archives) concerning homestudio.thing.net and jukebox.thing.net</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://jeromejoy.org/w/index.php?page=Homestudio.thing.net">http://jeromejoy.org/w/index.php?page=Homestudio.thing.net</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">the current informations about these projects, and other ones (lascaux2.info for instance, or forum hub which was on TT) are accessible from the frontpage. (Reminder : this website jeromejoy.org is currently under construction : I'm currently gathering all my archives)....</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Verdana; min-height: 13px; "><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Verdana; min-height: 13px; "><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">best and warmly</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Verdana; min-height: 13px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Verdana; min-height: 13px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">jerome</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>Le 21 juil. 10 à 16:32, Joseph Nechvatal a écrit :</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="'Lucida Handwriting', cursive"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana"><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="'Lucida Handwriting', cursive"><BR></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="'Lucida Handwriting', cursive">OK. I take it Jerome is offline. So I did an edit on what he had below. Check it out everyone before I paste it into <A href="http://en.wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org</A> (or stop me if you hate this idea).</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="'Lucida Handwriting', cursive"><BR></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="'Lucida Handwriting', cursive">I will need a sub-description (it will be hidden for the most part) to seperate The Thing out from the film and everything else Thingy. Is this OK? </FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 24px; ">(Net Art Project)</SPAN></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="'Lucida Handwriting', cursive"><BR></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="'Lucida Handwriting', cursive">So please quickly read this and make any cuts or changes. Of course I or anyone can change the page after I create it - but the scrutiny will be very strict. Not that it won't be right away. </FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="'Lucida Handwriting', cursive">BTW, what are the page #'s on TT in the Dieter Daniels, Gunther Reisinger (Eds.) “Net Pioneers 1.0: Contextualizing Early Net-Based Art”, Sternberg. 2010?</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="'Lucida Handwriting', cursive"><BR></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="'Lucida Handwriting', cursive">cheers</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="'Lucida Handwriting', cursive">Joseph Nechvatal </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV></BODY></HTML>