----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 3:58
PM
Subject: [mapping] sobre blogs e brians
holmes
Pessoal,
parece que
trebor quer que utilizemos o mesmo blog que
ele,
mas ainda não entendi como postar
textos lá, ou se ele deu ou não
a senha. Por mim não tem problema que seja o mesmo
blog,
Rosas, fala tu com brian, tu escreve melhor em
ingles
e entende mais do histórico do
projeto.
o email é:
sobre santo
amaro,
achei uma idéia legal por ser um projeto da
Lúcia já em andamento,
onde nos proporíamos (no final de maio) a apresentar nossas idéias
sobre cartografias
e nosso trabalho em geral
para
os alunos do Sesc santo Amaro do projeto
DERIVAS,
Também teríamos equipamentos disponíveis para um
dia
de
deriva por santo amaro junto aos alunos.
Essas coletas seriam apresentadas no mesmo dia,
numa festa
à
noite na praça central do sesc.
também é possível que publiquemos alguns desses
percursos e textos,
numa
possível revista ou site.
(será que entendi tudo
certo?)
é
uma espécie de desafio para nosso grupo-muito-novo
escrever um resumo de palestra e já apresentar
assim... de supetão.
isso
fortalecerá esse grupo e seria só o primeiro passo,
depois ainda tem as idéias de pequeno e grande
seminário,
concomitantemente a organização de
workshops
para
que a própria população de são paulo, construa suas
narrativas.
foi
isso que entendi das nossas conversas ontem.
1º
passo: Santo Amaro
2°
passo: grupo com brian holmes (pequeno seminário)
3º
criação de estratégias de workshops para ampliar os modos de coletas e
cartografias na cidade
4º possíveis seminários tratando do tema, trazendo pesquisadores
internacionais (grande)
5º publicações
surgiu a idéia de nomadizarmos com o projeto pelos
vários sescs e outras instituições de são
paulo,
fazendo workshops dentro desses espaços e
acrescentando em nosso mapa.
se alguém quizer acrescentar algo, por favor:
FAÇA-O.
abraços
fabiane.
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De: edu-bounces@bbs.thing.net
[mailto:edu-bounces@bbs.thing.net]Em nome de ricardorosas
Enviada
em: terça-feira, 8 de março de 2005 12:23
Para:
edu
Assunto: [mapping] Concerning the meeting on
Monday
Trebor and everybody,
This message is in English for both Brazilians here and Trebor to
understand, OK?
The meeting on Monday was very stimulant! Lots of things were thought,
envisioned and planned!
So let´s start with more practical
details. As for the map itself, it was decided the best region to explored,
given the peolpe who will do the work and the best and appropriate
conditions, is Santo Amaro, a district with lots of interesting
charcteristics, related, among others, to migration, bad social conditions
and such. Also, it´s good not to focus, by now, on downtown, but start with
a small initiative, one that can be done more easily, also because Lucia is
already working in the region. And also because, as it seems, there is
lready a map from Santo Amaro being designed. Is it that way, Lucia? Lucia
has got some people who can work on the software, such as making some
changes, including the dots, maybe even thinking about uploads by cell
phone. Such are things to be discussed, and Trebor may have some suggestions
and instructions of the use of the software for Lucia. I do think it is a
crucial thing to be to thought once that´s all what this project is about.
Second thing is the other steps on the involvement with the project.
Artur Matuck suggested we to study some texts and stuff related to
cartographies and maps, so there is the blog that Trebor opened for us to
upload with our material and we need its log in and password. For the time
being we´re already using a simpler blog opened by Fabiane (
http://cartografias.blogspot.com/)
in which some texts (in Portuguese) are already posted. It´s good that all
of us post material we find essential. Let´s maybe just wait for Trebor to
tell us the log ins and passwords to be used in the blog.
Following this are two possible events related to the project wich were
suggested by Lucia and Artur. Lucia is having this small workshop in SENAC
Santo Amaro in May called "Derivas" (Driftings), which will try to apply in
a practical way some psychogeographical notions and explore the district
with cameras, narratives, recorders, and such. Different driftings in the
streets of Santo Amaro. The event may also host sort of a closed conference
dealing with the Submap project, in which some of us will be presenting
notions related to the project and goiving some basis on the current use of
cartography. It will serve for us to know each other and also to write some
material on the project and related subjects, such as the work of Trebor,
the use of the city by social movements (in the case of Fabiane), Lucia´s
work with cartographies, and such. We can likely have the presence of Brian
Holmes (he´s currently in Argentina), who can be paid to come here and tell
us his experiences with maps and its uses. At least we hope he can come -
we´ve got to contact him as soon as possible, so, Fabi, don´t forget to send
him an e-mail! From this event may also come out a publication, so it´s good
for you all to think about a text related to the project.
But that publication may be released in another (now bigger) event
which we´re thinking on suggesting SESC (that can very likely embrace it),
that would deal with "Maps and Territories". For that, we can think of
inviting some people to make lectures and even think about some sort of
exhibition (I particularly thought about asking Brian Holmes and Bureau
d`Etudes to send their maps to occupy a whole exhibition room in SESC
Pompeia) and of course the release of the submap project along with the
working map of Santo Amaro. That event would be done by the end of the
second semester, and it´s something yet to be decided and thought with more
time and detail.
Well, that was what we basically discussed. Any other details, please
Fabi, Matuck and Lucia include here. All the others, please ask your doubts
and questions!
Cheers
Ricardo
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