[iDC] Theory Thread and Why are women watching but not talking?
ksenija.berk at siol.net
Wed Jul 12 13:03:57 EDT 2006
I completely agree with the post of Adriene.
Esp. with the part regarding time...
I find that I (like most of you) spend alot of time on the computer
(I make my artwork on it, communicate with students & colleagues,
keep in touch with long distance friends & family) and something has
to give - I have many many of your posts on file for that day when I
have "extra" time (when I'm finally hospitalized from overwork?)...so
I do register them as important, but I can't keep up with many
discussions because of limited time and...
Since I have to write my PhD, study, travell, work...well eat and sleep as
but for me personaly internet and wireless technologies are just one of many
tools I use
to communicate. And there is also so called human factor, which means that
after a certain
time of participating in a debate like this, which I like very much, I
become tired, lose
concentration... and while I'm writing on the move, I use laptop, while
really writing on the
run I use palm. And in this case it becomes virtually impossible and very
participate. So I just put all your posts in a special folder and read it
Download time is not real time.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adriene Jenik" <ajenik at ucsd.edu>
To: "IDC list" <idc at bbs.thing.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [iDC] Theory Thread and Why are women watching but not talking?
> Hello all,
> I would probably have watched this conversation scroll up my screen,
> or file it "for later perusal - hah!) except for Laura's post...thank
> you Laura...you encapsulated in the form of your post something which
> I was trying to imagine how to articulate.
> Here are a few additional thoughts that I'll go ahead and risk writing.
> I find it extremely difficult to sustain a considered and reflective
> reading experience in small squished together type that flows
> endlesslessly down a page. I find myself starting out, keenly
> interested in what is being written, determined to finish it, but by
> the end of a long post, I'm skipping past whole sentences.
> I have no problem reading whole books, but for some reason probably
> already explained eloquently in a previous post here(!) I cannot
> sustain attention on an email unless it is a) broken into smaller
> chunks, b) is something deeply personal that requires my response, or
> c) I print them out and read them offline.
> In the end the method of receipt of a list (interrupting an already
> heavy flow of work and project-related email) makes it difficult for
> me to thoughtfully digest all of what is being passed around, much
> less come up with a cohesive worthwhile response.
> Laura's post (which I read to the end!) also pointed out something
> less tangible - not that I need my theory to be entertaining - but
> her formatting made the text more readable somehow - it gave highs &
> lows & punctuation points - lists are supposed to be more like
> conversations than books, but this post reminded me of how much more
> para-formatted reading is the activity of a list - not hearing and
> being responsive within a conversation.
> Also, I'm an artist - I like theory, I read it, I learn from it (from
> you), but I do not write it myself - I express myself in somewhat
> more simple ways. Writing for me is often a painful process (though I
> do it because it is important). I do not want others to simplify what
> they are saying at all! but I have to admit that I'm intimidated at
> times about responding to a thread in my simple language and "voice",
> so I just sit back and let others more worthy carry the thread.
> I find that I (like most of you) spend alot of time on the computer
> (I make my artwork on it, communicate with students & colleagues,
> keep in touch with long distance friends & family) and something has
> to give - I have many many of your posts on file for that day when I
> have "extra" time (when I'm finally hospitalized from overwork?)...so
> I do register them as important, but I can't keep up with many
> discussions because of limited time and...
> My aging body is fucked up (in part because of all the computer
> usage). It hurts. alot. most of the time. Because I move around alot
> for work I have portable computers I work on and my ergonomic
> "environment" is a joke. Like many of you, I sometimes leave my body
> while in a period of intense work on the machine. Alot of times (even
> now!) I find myself poised to write up a contribution, but realize
> that it would probably be much better if I stretched a bit. Oh, but
> then after I stretch I'm reminded of a meeting or a production list
> or a book I need to grab, or...and I'm off to address immediate demands.
> There are probably a few more things, but I'm finding it hard to
> continue even now as I have a meeting in 20 mins at a coffee shop
> down the street & I'm still naked and dripping wet from my shower.
> Thanks Laura, again, for allowing your voice to come through your
> post, which made me feel like there might be a space for mine...
> Adriene Jenik
> Associate Professor, Computer & Media Arts
> Visual Arts Dept., University of California, San Diego
> 9500 Gilman Dr., La Jolla, CA 92093-0084
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