[iDC] 1. Some notes on value...

Zbigniew Lukasiak zzbbyy at gmail.com
Mon Feb 25 16:13:40 UTC 2008

On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Franz Nahrada <f.nahrada at reflex.at> wrote:
> Thanks Steve for relaying that FakeSteve Jobs post. Its pretty cynical,
>  but it hits reality and is counter to any kind of false optimism that
>  plagues the Open Source and Open Design world especially when things are
>  played out in theory. What the people that DO want to promote the P2P
>  revolution need least is self - deception.
>  I think there is a lot of thoughts going on in many minds to assure
>  quality and excellence of Open Design, not just in Software, but in any
>  field of information driven material production. Maybe some people in this
>  list can describe social innovations really assuring overall quality and
>  useability in Free Modes. Thats what I am concerned most at current times,
>  that you cannot just simply rely on developers narcissistic viewpoints
>  when it comes to design and useability.
>  But where is any kind of open design activity including software that has
>  managed to really engage in a substantial and productive dialogue with
>  users, distributors, supportes,  that outperforms and outrules IP based
>  competition in a complete field of human production? What would we need to
>  get there?

I think the problem in Open Source projects goes even deeper - it is
not only that the developers don't listen to their users - they also
don't listen to designers and other professionals.  Most Open Source
projects are very hierarchic - and also pretty closed.  They are
meritocracies - to prove you are good you need to come with good code
- this works to some extent - but also closes the community to any
influence transcending code.

Zbigniew Lukasiak

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