[iDC] Defending UC

George Siemens gsiemens at gmail.com
Mon Sep 26 17:27:31 UTC 2011

Anya, can you detail how learning occurs in spite of the system, not because
of it? In my experiences with at least that many universities in at least
that many countries, I've found the opposite to be true - at undergrad,
grad, and post-grad levels. The university is a spectacular place for
learning - among the best that humanity has ever produced.  The system has
become ill and needs to be rethought. But tremendous learning, innovation,
research, and knowledge development continues to occur in these systems.
Your statement seems off-the-cuff and completely untenable.


On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Anya Kamenetz <anyaanya at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:58 AM, John Hopkins <neo at neoscenes.net> wrote:
>  In my experience across more than 50 institutions of higher learning in 20
> countries,
> learning occurs despite the system, not because of it.  And in that regard,
> I
> applaud anyone who makes it happen, anywhere, anytime, (sometimes even at
> great
> personal cost)...
> Yes.
> a
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