[thingist] Agree?

Keith Sanborn mrzero at panix.com
Mon Apr 27 02:43:53 UTC 2020


Maybe you were just thinking abour 2021 in the USA?

> On Apr 26, 2020, at 9:29 AM, w <w at thing.net> wrote:
> 
> I wonder what I was smoking when we discussed this idea.
> 
> To do the video you will have to buy the princess dolls and get a
> miniature guillotine.  Here are instructions on how to build one:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2WZFLuU8CU&feature=youtu.be
> 
> The alternative is to order a Chinese plastic model from amazon 
> for 9.75 Euro, but you still have to paint it yourself:
> 
> https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0829DQ66F?tag=duc03-21&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1
> 
> Ok, Bezos, plastics and China, I agree, not a good option.  
> 
> But here's a pretty good Lego execution:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oOSXCR9C4Q
> 
> After all this research, I think some ideas are better left unexecuted.
> 
> Instead I will have one of my favorite Belgian beers:
> 
> https://belgianfamilybrewers.be/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/La_Guillotine_10G.jpg
> 
> 
> Greetings from my quarantine cell in Berlin!  
> 
> W
> 
> 
> CC: Caspar Stracke via thingist.  Perhaps there is something there for 04/30.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, 2020-04-25 at 15:04 -0400, Peter Fend wrote:
>> princess dolls only
>> 
>> not other ones
>> 
>> we make a very pronounced distinction
>> 
>> and we send the message that if you want to be a US citizen
>> you MUST not behave as a would-be princess
>> 
>> the social cost is too high
>> 
>> and the political contradiction is too great:  I live in a free
>> republic?
>> amd my child is taught to live the life of royalty?  No way.  
>> Indeed, the violence that I proposed was FAR LESS than the violence
>> imposed on the poorer people by the princess-fantasies that abound.
>> 
>> witness the wage-slavery of all the internet-prompted delivery
>> nobodies
>> 
>> Girls with I-phones need to know the social cost of their privileged
>> behavior.
>> 
>> The video contemplated, with Wolfgang Stahle, was to build a scaffold
>> with a guillotine, and then chop off the heads of a hundred Disney
>> princess
>> dolls, with music from what we hear at graduation.  There would be
>> point-
>> blank recitations about the Saudi investment in Disney, and about the
>> dominance of the oil industry, particularly in the worst ecological
>> practices,
>> by royalist or effectively-royalist companies.   Their assumption,
>> very
>> obnoxous, and contrary to all the thought about so-called creative
>> capitalism,
>> has been that they alone will effect a "transition" from fossils to
>> renewables,
>> as they alone, by Divine Right, have the power of controlling
>> "Energy".
>> 
>> remarkable it is, now that this "traumatized, violence-taught"
>> daughter who
>> is  going to Harvard, and paid double my earnings to do so, has been
>> able
>> to hear, for about 15 yaers, what I really think.
>> 
>> How is it that I can say to my child what I cannot possibly say in
>> the art world, or any polite-publication world.
>> 
>> I can say the truth as i see it to my child, but must avoid
>> saying such things in my cultural job?
>> 
>> Strange.
>> 
>> What use, then, does the cultural job have?
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> 
>> On April 25, 2020 at 2:24 PM Sarah Markgraf <slipperg at optonline.net>
>> wrote: 
>> 
>> I envision a video in which you are explaining to a young girl about
>> the revolution, then proceed to de-capitate all her dolls.
>> 
>> NO, the Dad says:  almost all dolls are fine, just not princess or
>> queen ones
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 25, 2020, at 1:19 PM, Peter Fend <fend at ocean-earth.net>
>>>> wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>> To do so in a videotape, with the chopping done anesthetially, by
>>>> guillotine,
>>>> and only for Disney-brand princess dolls, 
>>>> 
>>>> if accompanied by an explanatory press release,
>>>> 
>>>> could be an enactment of political history about which we cannot
>>>> be sued for
>>>> libel, or for damaging the Disney brand.
>>>> 
>>>> Anybody has a right to destroy his or her own property.
>>>> 
>>>> Would Disney need to come out defending royalism?
>>>> ahem, r-oilism?
>>>> 
>>>> Similar vicious actions could be done with "Amazon."
>>>> 
>>>> F.
>>>> 
>>>> oh, and M.:  was the French Revolution "funny and alarming"?
>>>> 
>>>> Or was it an historical event with huge global consequences?
>>>>> On April 25, 2020 at 12:59 PM Sarah Markgraf <
>>>>> slipperg at optonline.net> wrote: 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you for reminding me of the Disney-Saudi connection.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The story of you and Sophia chopping off the heads of her dolls
>>>>> has always struck me as both funny and alarming.  I don’t mean
>>>>> “ha ha funny.” 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 24, 2020, at 5:50 PM, Peter Fend <fend at ocean-earth.net
>>>>>>> wrote: 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> piqued
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "interest"?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I discovered the Disney princess obsession from reading to my
>>>>>> kid, then seeing videotapes for all the kids.  I was so
>>>>>> pissed off by the narrative that I taught 
>>>>>> Sophia about how in the French Revolution all the princesses
>>>>>> had their heads chopped off.  We made drawings with chalk on
>>>>>> the pavement of heads being
>>>>>> chopped off.  Her mother got angry, saying that I was
>>>>>> teaching violence.  No, 
>>>>>> I said in angry retort, I'm teaching History.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hopefully, the lesson sinks in.  Princesses or wannabe
>>>>>> princesses should die.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The fantasy women have of getting all their needs met by
>>>>>> deliveries, from
>>>>>> Amazon, from Fresh Direct, from the corner pizzeria, results
>>>>>> directly from the
>>>>>> Disney princess propaganda.  And so, the free nation
>>>>>> subordinates itself to
>>>>>> royalism.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Remember:  one of the biggest investors in Walt Disney,
>>>>>> especially in the 100-year bonds, is Saudi Arabian royalty.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thus, the US becomes a prisoner of royalist energy policies
>>>>>> of Saudi Arabia,
>>>>>> UAE, Kuwait, Britain (BP & Shell), Netherlands (Shell),
>>>>>> Norway (Equinor), Spain (Repsol), and two autocratic
>>>>>> countries that could as well be royalist (Russia and China).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> OFF WITH THEIR HEADS
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Must we do the American and French Revolutions again?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Peter Fend
>>>>>> wannabe US citizen
>>>>>> peon of the Empire
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On April 24, 2020 at 3:47 PM Sarah Markgraf < 
>>>>>>> slipperg at optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The link between Disney girl fantasies and “delivery
>>>>>>> fantasies” peeked my interest.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2020, at 9:35 AM, Peter Fend < 
>>>>>>>> fend at ocean-earth.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ---------- Original Message ----------
>>>>>>>>> From: Peter Fend < fend at ocean-earth.net>
>>>>>>>>> To: sofia bastidas < tvgov.info at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> Date: April 23, 2020 at 9:31 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Agree?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If you do, then--I ask--please forward these thoughts
>>>>>>>>> to Guillermo and Agustina.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I wake up full of desires to make history.
>>>>>>>>> The stagnation of my entire life is too much.
>>>>>>>>> Now, Bezos must fall, Bolsonaro must lose,
>>>>>>>>> the Amazon must be saved, Physiocratic
>>>>>>>>> management of land/water must begin,
>>>>>>>>> Putin must get an imaginative start to his
>>>>>>>>> next 8 years in the Kremlin, the reservoirs
>>>>>>>>> must be cleaned out, and we must be rich.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The complete collapse of Bezos is entirely
>>>>>>>>> possible. Such happened before in history.
>>>>>>>>> If people no longer believe in a company
>>>>>>>>> or its head, the whole thing can disappaer
>>>>>>>>> within months.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> To drive the point home: we spearhead any
>>>>>>>>> attack on Bezos with an attack on what I
>>>>>>>>> hated to even touch when I visited Harvard
>>>>>>>>> Law School in my 20s: the 3-inch thick US
>>>>>>>>> Internal Revenue Code. The document is
>>>>>>>>> a NIGHTMARE. And people spend their entire
>>>>>>>>> lives figuring out to cheat the public by using
>>>>>>>>> that book. Bezos hired the lawyers who would
>>>>>>>>> do exactly that. As Professional Parasites,
>>>>>>>>> eating away at the body politic and genuine
>>>>>>>>> free enterprise. Eating away at the USA like
>>>>>>>>> a disease.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Characterize "Amazon" as a disease worse
>>>>>>>>> than COViD, and everyone will flee in hororr.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> We can then take on the Disney princess
>>>>>>>>> fantasies, which created the market for selfish
>>>>>>>>> delivery fantasies. The public name for such
>>>>>>>>> an attack: TVGOV.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Pedro Quixote
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 
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