[iDC] Spammer de la Silicon Valley

dave cormier coarsesalt at gmail.com
Fri Aug 31 12:05:54 UTC 2007


You know... it's one thing to be spammed and something entirely different to
be spammed by a blog post in a mailing list. :P

Assuming this isn't a very funny joke...

I've been seeing more and more of this as the second wave of internet users
become more and more prevalent. Mr. Keen, of course, is not part of this
community, but as the audience is becoming increasingly less critically
informed (by volume), this kind of advertising is becoming possible. I was
pointed to an interesting conversation at the emerge blog yesterday
http://elgg.jiscemerge.org.uk/briankelly/weblog/802.html detailing the same
debate. There is something inherited from the faceless advertising of the
past that somehow empowers people like Mr. Keen and Mr. Kelly to spam
everyone with their comments.

There needs to be some way to enforce some kind of silence on this kind of
message. I would love to explore this idea, for instance, in my blog. I
clearly can't. This is an attempt at creating 'buzz' through all the means
at this person's disposal. Nevermind the fact that there are niceties.
Ignore the fact that there might be some kind of community with standards.
(of course, for all I know, this ad is appropriate here) Anything that I
post in my blog, no matter how derogatory, is simply supporting the overall

Any ideas?


On 8/31/07, Andrew Keen <Andrew_Keen at mail.vresp.com> wrote:
> <http://andrewjkeen.com>
> Hi everyone -
> Finally I've been fingered. "You Sir," A finger-pointing Stephen Colbert nailed
> me<http://www.comedycentral.com/motherload/player.jhtml?ml_video=91639&ml_collection=&ml_gateway=&ml_gateway_id=&ml_comedian=&ml_runtime=&ml_context=show&ml_origin_url=%2Fmotherload%2Findex.jhtml%3Fml_video%3D91639&ml_playlist=&lnk=&is_large=true>on his Colbert Report earlier this month, "you're just an elitist, Sir." But
> I fingered him back -- getting the champion of the "internets" to publicly
> confess his online naughtiness habit and his support of the Viacom suit
> against YouTube.
> ------------------------------
> [image: Image]<http://cts.vresp.com/c/?AfterTV/42dbed03ea/deee019ed9/4197a8511f/ml_video=91639&ml_collection=&ml_gateway=&ml_gateway_id=&ml_comedian=&ml_runtime=&ml_context=show&ml_origin_url=%2Fmotherload%2Findex.jhtml%3Fml_video%3D91639&ml_playlist=&lnk=&is_large=true>
> ------------------------------
> * *
> Stephen Colbert wasn't the only mainstream media journalist to claim I'm
> an elitist. "Etes-vous Elitiste?" I was asked by Les Echos<http://www.lesechos.fr/info/innovation/300189122.htm>,
> the French version of the *Financial Times*. Emily Bell suggested
> something similar in a walloping<http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/take_two/2007/08/andrew_keen_v_emily_bell.html>debate on Guardian Unlimited. But it's the French who really seem to get
> CULT. I've even been christened "l'Antéchrist de la Silicon Valley<http://www.liberation.fr/actualite/ecrans/273486.FR.php>"
> by *Liberation*, the French leftist daily. If right and left wing French
> media are both accusing me of being an elitist, then I really must be doing
> something right.
> In real life, of course, I'm neither *un elitiste* nor *l'antichrist*.
> Want proof? Come and hear me talk in September. I'll be in England and
> Germany in the first half of the month, then Canada and Holland in the last
> week. I hope you'll be around to catch me in the flesh and get me to sign a
> copy of CULT. The schedule is below:
> ------------------------------
> * *
> 09/04 Royal Society for the Arts<http://www.rsa.org.uk/events/detail.asp?EventID=2323>,
> London (6.00 pm)
> 09/05 Toward a Social Science of Web 2.0<http://www.socialtext.net/socsciweb2conf/index.cgi>,
> University of York (6.00 pm) -- in debate with Charles Leadbeater
> 09/06 Frontline Club<http://www.thefrontlineclub.com/club_events.php?event=907>,
> London (7.30 pm) -- introduced by Richard Sambrooke, director of BBC's
> Global News
> 09/07 IJP Alumni Conference <http://www.ijp.org/137.html?&L=1>, Bonn
> (noon)
> 09/07 Watershed Media Center<http://www.watershed.co.uk/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Watershed.woa/wa/exhibit?daysToDisplay=2&typesToDisplay=0&object=1158>,
> 25th Anniversary Celebration, Bristol (7.00 pm)
> 09/20 J. Walter Thompson's Digital Forum, New York City (3.00 pm)
> 09/24 Vidfest <http://2007.vidfest.com/main/whats-happening-in-2007/>,
> Vancouver (10.20 am)
> 09/27 Crossmedia Picnic <http://www.picnicnetwork.org/set-5628-en.html>,
> Amsterdam (10.30 am) -- in debate with David Weinberger
> ------------------------------
> Really hope to see you at one of these events.
> v.best,
> l'Antéchrist de la Silicon Valley
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