[iDC] Response to Patricia Clough's Vimeo Video http://vimeo.com/6797762

Stmart96 at aol.com Stmart96 at aol.com
Mon Oct 19 01:00:19 UTC 2009

Hey Andrew   Delighted to meet up again.  Will you be at the  conference?
As for governance   I have been using the term  in relation  to capitalism 
and the market  influenced by Foucault's treatment of  neoliberalim and 
biopolitics  in the last 3 sets of English translated  lectures. 
I think the lectures show some difference from the way Deleuze read them in 
 terms of control    So I am working on that  and  I am  forever engaged 
with measure  statistics,  probability and  beyond.   More coming  at the 
conference.   Patricia 
In a message dated 10/18/2009 7:50:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
aherman at wlu.ca writes:

First,  let me say a hearty hello to Patricia. It seems fitting that we 
would  reconnect digitally about digital labor after all these years.

Second,  I wondering if Patricia can clarify her statement about the 
difference between  capital/capitalism/and capitalist "governance". What does your 
understanding  of "governance" have in common with the Focauldian concept 
of governmentality?  You mention "biopower" fleetingly in your ruminations on 
digital labor but,  suprisingly, you don;t mention it again when you speak 
of measurement and  control of affect and "lifiness".

It seems to me that governance is  rather different than governmentality 
but I would be curious to hear what you  think before holding forth.

Second, I am also curious about Patricia's  stated obsession with 
measurement. How is possible to measure surplus value or  exploitation when one moves 
from material to immaterial labor? Was it ever  possible in the first 
place? If you recall, Marxist political economy kind of  ran off the rails in the 
70's trying to find the holy grail of measuring  surplus value (i.e. Pierio 
Sraffa, etc). Why bother? 

Andrew Herman  

P.S. BTW, the bathroom scene was perfect.

Andrew Herman, Ph.  D.
Associate Professor and Chairperson
Department of Communication  Studies
Graduate Program in Cultural Analysis and Social Theory
Wilfrid  Laurier University
Waterloo, Ontario N2L 3C5
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