Hello again all,
We are pleased to have received such an overwhelming response to the re-launching of THE THINGIST.
As many of you may already know, The Thing has been in a kind of hibernation over the past few years, having moved its offices from Postmasters Gallery to the Clocktower Gallery. Now after great discussion, we are actively seeking a physical exhibition space, grant-writing, fundraising and generally “think-tanking” for the future.
The stars seem to have aligned. The social and intellectual environment seems ripe for a new beginning. (or plug in your own socialist realism aphorism here.)
But what of the new and what of the old? What is still relevant and how to take these into still unchartered territories?
This is where we would like to begin with The Thingist.
(And forgive me the lengthy email but…joy, joy!)
In the past, The Thingist was a terrific resource for a wide range of concerns on the cusp of art, new media and social discourse. The breadth of knowledge (and quirkiness) of its participants created a one-of-kind mailinglist.
And in the event of this exciting new phase for The Thing, we look forward to each of your distinctive voices again.
As always a malleable thing, we will be more actively shaping how this list functions. And your thoughts are essential to this process; but already there a few aspects that we gathered from the past.
a.. When new members subscribe, we will attempt to introduce them to the group. Maybe this seems a bit formal, but we will keep it simple and low-key. However, for the moment we encourage each of you to provide a tiny little update about your current craziness within your first post.
a.. As always a gentlemen’s code is assumed in this realm. Other listers’ email addresses should never become a part of your personal email flurries (although personal banter should, of course, be delivered more personally.)
a.. Because we are carefully expanding the list, at first, there will be a rather loose moderation. This may result in a turnover of post from instant to a few hours. With this, let’s all try to make posts meaningful. Often one’s Inbox becomes cluster-fucked with response like “yes” (or “NO”.) And understandably, sometimes there is nothing more powerful than a simple “yes”; but this has the habit of creating endless posts to open and eventually affects the vitality of the discussion.
Okay, let’s cap it off there for now. Parameters are an elephant over the alps!
I am Arfus Greenwood. Some of you know me as an hysterical writer/curator, therefore meaning flustered, New York art personality, who might fall down drunk in one moment and then deliver a diatribe on the little other, in the next.
Presently, together with Wolf, I have the time and perverse interest to read every little item that each of you write. I am deliberate but I like joy and sublimity is my filter. (Damn, that’s starting to sound like a sexy personal ad… but I refuse to be self-aware about it… ?) Anyway, I write anything. I am a writing whore and fiction is my focus. (But this is not your concern; regardless of what you write, I assume that it is all a kind of fiction.)
If I have anything to say in terms of assisting in shaping the list, I will sneak up on you privately. (No one need know.)
But for now…
The forum is open!
Cheers, Bis Bald,
arfus
Thanks Arfus for your brilliant introduction to the m-l So I follow you
I am Jerome Joy, artist and composer based in France.
I'm currently directing with Peter Sinclair the sonic research lab, Locus Sonus - audio in art, http://locusonus.org/, and I work with GH Hovagimyan and Peter on the development of the art server nujus.net, http://nujus.net/ .
I had realized a series of online projects on thing.net between 1997 and 2008, such as Collective JukeBox, Forum Hub, nocinema.org, etc. in crossing audio art, net and sometimes visuals. And I continue in this moment with Sobralasolas ! (with Kaffe Matthews, etc.), Lascaux2 and 3 (with Paul Devautour) and other workspaces. So this means I develop such as a moderator and initiator, art platforms or 'plateaux' like dynamical and collaborative situations tied to social and technological contexts. This brings me to write some papers and articles here and there ... My musical work gathers various forms, from harsh noise performances and sonic immersive moments, to radio works and netmusic & streaming & networked performances, and to improbable music bands and systems (pizMO, picNIC, PacJap, RadioMatic, ...), which the objectives aim at approaching live composition, comprovisation and listening situations into different contexts. (most of my works can be listened on http://joy.nujus.net/ )
My current works are : NMSAT, Networked Music and SoundArt Timeline (with Locus Sonus), a open ressource and database Locustream, a worldwide open mikes network (with LS), http:// locusonus.org/soundmap/ and something you could be interested in, A brief history of The Thing, a project I develop in dialog with Wolfgang Staehle, but a lot of things remain to be written ... http://joy.nujus.net/w/?page=Brief% 20History%20of%20The%20Thing
and a lot of other things ... that are involved next months in several presentations and shows which will take place in various countries...
my native language is french, so certainly my (fr)english writing and typing could be a little bit exotic but I'll try to do my best in order to be understood ;-) I hope you get me
Sorry to have been so long for a first sending ...
Jerome
Le 28 mars 09 à 21:01, arfus greenwood a écrit :
Hello again all,
We are pleased to have received such an overwhelming response to the re-launching of THE THINGIST.
As many of you may already know, The Thing has been in a kind of hibernation over the past few years, having moved its offices from Postmasters Gallery to the Clocktower Gallery. Now after great discussion, we are actively seeking a physical exhibition space, grant-writing, fundraising and generally “think-tanking” for the future.
The stars seem to have aligned. The social and intellectual environment seems ripe for a new beginning. (or plug in your own socialist realism aphorism here.)
But what of the new and what of the old? What is still relevant and how to take these into still unchartered territories?
This is where we would like to begin with The Thingist.
(And forgive me the lengthy email but…joy, joy!)
In the past, The Thingist was a terrific resource for a wide range of concerns on the cusp of art, new media and social discourse. The breadth of knowledge (and quirkiness) of its participants created a one-of-kind mailinglist.
And in the event of this exciting new phase for The Thing, we look forward to each of your distinctive voices again.
As always a malleable thing, we will be more actively shaping how this list functions. And your thoughts are essential to this process; but already there a few aspects that we gathered from the past.
When new members subscribe, we will attempt to introduce them to the group. Maybe this seems a bit formal, but we will keep it simple and low-key. However, for the moment we encourage each of you to provide a tiny little update about your current craziness within your first post. As always a gentlemen’s code is assumed in this realm. Other listers’ email addresses should never become a part of your personal email flurries (although personal banter should, of course, be delivered more personally.) Because we are carefully expanding the list, at first, there will be a rather loose moderation. This may result in a turnover of post from instant to a few hours. With this, let’s all try to make posts meaningful. Often one’s Inbox becomes cluster-fucked with response like “yes” (or “NO”.) And understandably, sometimes there is nothing more powerful than a simple “yes”; but this has the habit of creating endless posts to open and eventually affects the vitality of the discussion. Okay, let’s cap it off there for now. Parameters are an elephant over the alps!
I am Arfus Greenwood. Some of you know me as an hysterical writer/ curator, therefore meaning flustered, New York art personality, who might fall down drunk in one moment and then deliver a diatribe on the little other, in the next.
Presently, together with Wolf, I have the time and perverse interest to read every little item that each of you write. I am deliberate but I like joy and sublimity is my filter. (Damn, that’s starting to sound like a sexy personal ad… but I refuse to be self- aware about it… ?) Anyway, I write anything. I am a writing whore and fiction is my focus. (But this is not your concern; regardless of what you write, I assume that it is all a kind of fiction.)
If I have anything to say in terms of assisting in shaping the list, I will sneak up on you privately. (No one need know.)
But for now…
The forum is open!
Cheers, Bis Bald,
arfus _______________________________________________ thingist mailing list thingist@mailman.thing.net https://mailman.thing.net/mailman/listinfo/thingist
hey can u turn the list back on its getting chilly, i need the warmth
best wishes from karachi :)
yasir
hey yasir, happy now? what's up in karachi anyway? perhaps you can invite some taliban iconoclasts on the list? i'm sure that would make for a lively discussion.
after almost two years we have the thingist back. we invited back the old gang, but also added a few new ones and will continue to do so. some of you may ask now, what's the use of such an antiquated medium like a listserv in the days of twitter and facebook? well, i don't know, but yasir and others asked for it and i don't do facebook, so for me this is the facebook antidote. maybe we missed that peculiar mix of people from different backgrounds that made the thingist so special. there's the activist faction, the pranksters, the artists, the curators and writers and the media and tech gurus. if you can decipher email addresses, all you have to do is check the members list and you know who they are (and i want to remind you of the code, please don't copy emails and spam the list members). so the idea is to throw them all into one pot, turn on the heat and see what kind of stew we can cook. hopefully it will be something different from the homogenized global art world discourse we get served daily from the usual purveyors - you know who they are. just to bring up one issue, there are challenges coming from new media culture that only now start to resonate in the art world. the question of the role of the author, the free sharing of information, intellectual property and copy rights, all this has a tremendous impact on cultural production. if the seismic shift hasn't occurred yet in the art world, its tremors can be clearly heard.
anyway... the thing has always been somewhat anti-cyclical and it's no coincidence that it is coming back in a time of severe economic crisis. we are currently rebuilding the board, trying to raise funds and find a permanent space for office, meetings, screenings and installations. our clocktower lease is over, but there is a temporary 2500 square feet space in lower manhattan that we hope to inaugurate with a big splash later in may. we will be able to tell you more after tomorrow's board meeting.
that much from new york today, good night and have a pleasant tomorrow.
ps: one thing i forgot. yes, the list is now moderated. it shouldn't intimidate anyone, we will only filter out the worst crap. if you have announcements for events or shows or whatever, forward them to the list as usual, but do so well in advance. the moderators will attempt to fashion a weekly digest to keep the list traffic of promotional material at a sustainable level.
hola all,
i like list servs! and i am quiet glad to see thingist jumping around my screenal spaces. seems like only a few lifetimes ago that i was playing with the old ipad and answering the telephone early in the mornings like a robot to scare folks at the thing office in chelsea (back when the hookers and cops were still enjoying life on 23rd street) perhaps they are back now!? (we need to put up that old thing.cam back on). i look forward to whatever strange flowers may grow from the shoeless futures to come - the sleepers awaken!
as for me...lots of old stuff and lots of new stuff...at the edges of the sea and borders under the perfect sun...not just a touch evil here...but a big hand full.
Ricardo Dominguez is a co-founder of The Electronic Disturbance Theater (EDT), a group who developed Virtual-Sit-In technologies in 1998 in solidarity with the Zapatista communities in Chiapas, Mexico. His recent Electronic Disturbance Theater project with Brett Stabaum, Micha Cardenas and Amy Sara Carroll the *Transborder Immigrant Tool* (a GPS cellphone safety net tool for crossing the Mexico/U.S border was the winner of "Transnational Communities Award", this award was funded by *Cultural Contact*, Endowment for Culture Mexico - U.S. and handed out by the U.S. Embassy in Mexico), also funded by CALIT2 and two Transborder Awards from the UCSD Center for the Humanities. Ricardo is an Associate Professor at UCSD in the Visual Arts Department, a Hellman Fellow, and Principal/Principle Investigator at CALIT2 (bang.calit2.net). He also co-founder of *particle group* with artists Diane Ludin, Nina Waisman, Amy Sara Carroll who focus on nano-toxicology and the economic flows of nanotechnology - our project is entitled *Particles of Interest: Tales of the Matter Market* (pitmm.net) and we have presented in Berlin (2007), the San Diego Museum of Art (2008), Oi Futuro, Brazil (2008), and CAL NanoSystems Institute UCLA (2009).
- - - +++ Ricardo Dominguez Associate Professor Hellman Fellow
Visual Arts Department, UCSD http://visarts.ucsd.edu/ Principal Investigator, CALIT2 http://calit2.net Co-Chair gallery@calit2 http://gallery.calit2.net CRCA Researcher http://crca.ucsd.edu/ Ethnic Studies Affiliate http://www.ethnicstudies.ucsd.edu/ Center for Iberian and Latin American Studies Affiliate http://cilas.ucsd.edu
Hemispheric Institute of Performance and Politics, Board Member http://hemi.nyu.edu
University of California, San Diego, 9500 Gilman Drive Drive, La Jolla, CA 92093-0436 Phone: (619) 322-7571 e-mail: rrdominguez@ucsd.edu
Project sites: site: http://gallery.calit2.net site: http://pitmm.net site: http://bang.calit2.net site: http://www.thing.net/~rdom blog:http://post.thing.net/blog/rdom