this is going to become interesting.
was about time something happened...
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I agree. Fuck 'em!
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was about time something happened...
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Who is "'em"? The fact remains,the EU is not sustainable,and its chief function hascome to be that of intrudingon Russia. Cameron made that clearin his speech for stayingin the EU, and Putin respondedafter Cameron lost in his own country. Quite polite of Putin. Peter Fend I'll try to have Ocean Earth,now with TVGOV, and in linewith Beach Party (basin logic),be the big winner in Europe. Peter Fend
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I agree. Fuck 'em!
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Why not sustainable? Maybe Britain should take the next bold step and leave planet earth?
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Who is "'em"?
The fact remains, the EU is not sustainable, and its chief function has come to be that of intruding on Russia.
Cameron made that clear in his speech for staying in the EU, and Putin responded after Cameron lost in his own country.
Quite polite of Putin.
Peter Fend
I'll try to have Ocean Earth, now with TVGOV, and in line with Beach Party (basin logic), be the big winner in Europe.
Peter Fend
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I agree. Fuck 'em!
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EU not sustainable becausethe poorer countries lag,and only a few benefit. There's also an incomparabilityof the member states. Theyare not peers. And, differences in standardsof membership make relationsunwieldy. Some have EU currency,some don't. Some have Schengen,some don't. Meantime, there's no commonstandard of taxation. And there's no coverage oflarge parts of Europe. AreSerbia, Russia and Switzerlandnot European? 2/3rds the volumeof the Rhine, including runoff,comes from Switzerland. And what about the oil of Norway? Right now, late June, we're backto an Other to Russia, but notie to Britain, as in 1812 and 1942. In Bulgaria and Romania especially,tension builds up because the Westoffers fracking, which they don'twant, and Russia offers dependenceon Russian natural gas. So, whatdecides on economic policy? Peter Fend
possibly, according to this legal blog. http://jackofkent.com http://jackofkent.com/
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Super interesting
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possibly, according to this legal blog. http://jackofkent.com
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Democracy is a joke.
On 26 Jun 2016, at 07:17, Keith Sanborn mrzero@panix.com wrote:
Super interesting
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Democracy doesn’t exist
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Democracy is a joke.
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Super interesting
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reminds of this interesting summary of Cameron not triggering Article 50
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2016/jun/25/brexit-live-emergency-m...
On 2016-06-26 16:17, Keith Sanborn wrote:
Super interesting
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just love the cover:
http://magazin.spiegel.de/SP/2016/26/home/images/co-sp-2016-026-0001-ipad.a6...
Hola Tod@s,
It might all depend on the differences between Remain Cultures or Escape Cultures or Exit Cultures or Return Cultures or Autonomous Cultures or Alter-Global Cultures contra Neolib Culture. (And navigating shoals of each by not falling into atavistic cultures anchored to a pasts that never existed to begin with).
For instance the Zapatistas are all 6 and at the same deeply Mexican and have not become atavistic.
Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon, determined to keep Scotland inside the EU, said on BBC that she would consider advising the Scottish Parliament not to give "legislative consent" to a British exit, or Brexit.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/britains-labour-party-open-revolt-r...
Over and out, R
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just love the cover:
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And, together with Keith, Peter and Wolfgang are celebrating: Strache, LePen, Wilders etc!
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On Sun, 2016-06-26 at 09:27 +0200, christoph draeger wrote:
And, together with Keith, Peter and Wolfgang are celebrating: Strache, LePen, Wilders etc!
Yes, we should just steal their ideas: more regional power, get rid of the nation states, get rid of the technocrats, get rid of TTIP, etc.
Then we should attempt to set up a Europe of regions - Scotland, Bavaria, Catalania, Alsace-Lorraine, Bohemia and so on, maybe 50, 60 or more. Maybe Peter Fend can draw them up. We also need a real European Parliament with real powers and finally create a democratic European Republic.
I think the fact the Blimeys are leaving (hopefully - but as Mukul's link suggests, they might not) offers real opportunities for advancing the EU project. The UK was always opposed to "ever closer union," so their departure could finally bring some movement to get rid of the constipated Bruxelles regime.
But of course, all this will not happen automatically, just by itself. It will need some serious work by people who still can give a damn...
A conference on the subject is planned in October in Berlin, organized by Dispari & Dispari and THE THING.
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