Hi Lucia,
I think you should ask Trebor as for the software once it has many peculiarities which maybe just your students/programmers may understand. Trebor even asked me to talk to you about that.
Best Ricardo
Hi everybody,
I am looking to some articles on maps that I have written. As soon as I have found them I will post. (Unfortunatly it is not in English, yet...)
For the seminar on carthographies, I suggest we invite:
- Paola Berenstein Jacques, "Elogio aos errantes. Breve histórico das
errâncias urbanas" In: http://www.vitruvius.com.br/arquitextos/arq000/esp256.asp
- Maria Cecília Loschiavo dos Santos, professora da Faculdade de
Arquitetura e Urbanismo (FAU) da USP. Livre-docência. Faculdade de Arquitetura e Urbanismo USP, FAU USP, Brasil. Título: Cidades de Plástico e Papelão. O habitat informal dos moradores de rua em São Paulo, Los Angeles e Tóquio, Ano de obtenção: 2003.
ver : www.vivaocentro.org.br Morar na rua, uma tragédia humana. Informe Viva o Centro, São Paulo, p. 3- 3, 01 set. 2004.
-Mapa da exclusão/inclusão social de Aldaíza Sposati http://www.comciencia.br/reportagens/ppublicas/pp11.htm
- Evaldo Mocarzel, diretor de À Margem da Imagem (Documentário)
Other important references:
Livro/ Book:
- SNOW, David; ANDERSON, Leon. Desafortunados: um estudo sobre o povo
da rua. Petrópolis: Vozes, 1998. resenha em: http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S0104-71832004000100016&script=sci_a...
- SNOW, David; ANDERSON, Leon. Down on Their Luck: A Study of Homeless
Street People. University of California Press, 1993.
Brian Holmes. Critique d'art, essayiste et traducteur, il vit à Paris et s'intéresse aux croisements entre art, économie politique et mouvements sociaux http://multitudes.samizdat.net/auteur.php3?id_auteur=465
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 12:22:42 -0300, ricardorosas wrote:
Trebor and everybody,
This message is in English for both Brazilians here and Trebor to understand, OK?
The meeting on Monday was very stimulant! Lots of things were thought, envisioned and planned!
So let´s start with more practical details. As for the map itself, it was decided the best region to explored, given the peolpe who will do the work and the best and appropriate conditions, is Santo Amaro, a district with lots of interesting charcteristics, related, among others, to migration, bad social conditions and such. Also, it´s good not to focus, by now, on downtown, but start with a small initiative, one that can be done more easily, also because Lucia is already working in the region. And also because, as it seems, there is lready a map from Santo Amaro being designed. Is it that way, Lucia? Lucia has got some people who can work on the software, such as making some changes, including the dots, maybe even thinking about uploads by cell phone. Such are things to be discussed, and Trebor may have some suggestions and instructions of the use of the software for Lucia. I do think it is a crucial thing to be to thought once that´s all what this project is about.
Second thing is the other steps on the involvement with the project. Artur Matuck suggested we to study some texts and stuff related to cartographies and maps, so there is the blog that Trebor opened for us to upload with our material and we need its log in and password. For the time being we´re already using a simpler blog opened by Fabiane (http://cartografias.blogspot.com/) in which some texts (in Portuguese) are already posted. It´s good that all of us post material we find essential. Let´s maybe just wait for Trebor to tell us the log ins and passwords to be used in the blog.
Following this are two possible events related to the project wich were suggested by Lucia and Artur. Lucia is having this small workshop in SENAC Santo Amaro in May called "Derivas" (Driftings), which will try to apply in a practical way some psychogeographical notions and explore the district with cameras, narratives, recorders, and such. Different driftings in the streets of Santo Amaro. The event may also host sort of a closed conference dealing with the Submap project, in which some of us will be presenting notions related to the project and goiving some basis on the current use of cartography. It will serve for us to know each other and also to write some material on the project and related subjects, such as the work of Trebor, the use of the city by social movements (in the case of Fabiane), Lucia´s work with cartographies, and such. We can likely have the presence of Brian Holmes (he´s currently in Argentina), who can be paid to come here and tell us his experiences with maps and its uses. At least we hope he can come - we´ve got to contact him as soon as possible, so, Fabi, don´t forget to send him an e-mail! From this event may also come out a publication, so it´s good for you all to think about a text related to the project.
But that publication may be released in another (now bigger) event which we´re thinking on suggesting SESC (that can very likely embrace it), that would deal with "Maps and Territories". For that, we can think of inviting some people to make lectures and even think about some sort of exhibition (I particularly thought about asking Brian Holmes and Bureau d`Etudes to send their maps to occupy a whole exhibition room in SESC Pompeia) and of course the release of the submap project along with the working map of Santo Amaro. That event would be done by the end of the second semester, and it´s something yet to be decided and thought with more time and detail.
Well, that was what we basically discussed. Any other details, please Fabi, Matuck and Lucia include here. All the others, please ask your doubts and questions!
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As a critic it's important to read your peers, and try to assess the pertinence of your own work in the mirror of theirs. So I was curious to read Coco Fusco's recent article on mapping [www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/ questioning_the_frame]. However, I must say that her continuous assertions of cultural authority leave me feeling highly ambivalent. On the one hand, the threads of historical memory she brings up are extremely welcome. On the other, her unwillingness to engage with current conditions and projects tends to reduce the past to a complaint: Why isn't it the present anymore?
It's true that the raw fact of being older than the majority of the people in a given crowd can make you feel uncomfortably lucid. When I went to a conference on so-called "locative" or GPS-based media at the RIXC center in Latvia, I found most of the projects quite naive, developing a few stylistic traits of situationist psychogeography in the absence of any geopolitical critique of power relations, or any philosophical critique of instrumental rationality. In effect, a Cartesian worldview has been built into the computerized technology of graphic information systems, which are undergirded by megaprojects of military origin, or what I call "imperial infrastructure." But rather than just giving a disciplinary lecture with all the answers stated in general terms, I tried to show how changing conditions had made the once-subversive traditions of psychogeography quite superficial, to the point where the aesthetic forms the artists were using seemed to render the very infrastructure of their projects invisible. And when I recently published that paper out of context in Springerin, I took the time to name all the artists and projects in question, so as to establish the precise referents of the critique [www.springerin.at/dyn/heft.php?pos=1& lang=en]. I wish Coco Fusco would make that kind of minimal effort, as it would bring her sharp observations into contact with actual projects, and open up a space of possible transformation.
More to the point: When I began my work on mapping, about four years ago now, as a direct result of involvement in demonstrations against the policies of the WTO and IMF, I too felt that the most important reference was the history of the Third World movements of national liberation, in their relations to the Western civil rights and new left movements of the 60s and 70s. In an early text that was finally published in the book Moneynations, I tried to show how the very concept of the Third World, and then above all, the reality of the Movement of Non-Aligned Nations, acted to open up new imaginary and real spaces within the dominant bi-polar map of the Cold War [http://2002.memefest.org/en/defaultnews.cfm?newsmem=15]. I asked the question whether the emergence of the World Social Forum in Porto Alegre could be compared to the Bandung Conference in 1955. Obviously, the answer was that it could not: both because the current antisystemic movements do not (yet) have the strength that Bandung represented, and because the operative modes of opposition may well have changed fundamentally since 1955.
The global importance of the Third World movements lay in the new kinds of international solidarity that they helped provoke. But something important remains unstated in Fusco's references to these movements, and this is the fact that the major links that tied them to the First World do not exist anymore (nor, indeed, do the movements themselves, for we are talking about specifically national movements in the period of decolonization). One of these links was an aspiration to create a non-Stalinist form of communism, according to the examples given by the successful Cuban and Vietnamese guerrilla insurgencies, and also by Yugoslav self-management (one must remember that the non-aligned movement came officially into existence in Belgrade). Another powerful link was the notion of cultural authenticity, or inherent difference from the Western norm, as a liberating foundation upon which newly independent nations could be built. This Third World concept served as a basis for the struggles toward a multicultural society in the First World. Today, however, the egalitarian aspiration to a self-managed communism has no objective touchstone in reality, leaving those who feel its lack in a deep state of ideological disarray. At the same time, the notion of cultural authenticity has been largely usurped by nationalist or fundamentalist projects which, although they have fortunately not eradicated all work towards equal rights in a multicultural society, have nonetheless made it very difficult to raise the banner of cultural or ethnic difference as a rallying-point for international solidarity.
Instead of relying on the old internationalist slogans (Third Worldist or proletarian), the transnational movements of dissent that gathered strength throughout the 1990s tried to use the communicative power of the discourses of human rights that had gained currency in the 80s, largely through the resistance of people in the former Eastern bloc to totalitarianism, and in Latin America to dictatorship. It was subsequently necessary, in the late 90s, for the Western participants in these transnational movements to take the further step of putting their own bodies on the line, of taking direct action against the international economic institutions, in order to go beyond the abstract character of the human rights discourse. This was a way of responding, in the overdeveloped countries, to the sacrifices of the many "IMF riots" that had been held, often at great cost of life, in what was now being called the Global South. Anyone who believes this step was taken by middle-class white kids acting on internet fantasies, in the absence of direct input from social movements around the world, quite obviously didn't go to any of the demonstrations and paid no attention to the planning process or the reports.
The point, however, is not to suggest that a brief flare-up of worldwide protest has brought about any substantial change. It is rather to recall what a difficult and long-term effort is really needed, both to grasp the way that transnational state capitalism now functions, and to articulate large-scale resistance. When Josh On [www.theyrule.net] or Bureau d'Etudes [http://utangente.free.fr/index2.html] make their complex charts of contemporary power relations, one can be assured that the cold and abstract character of the results is very painful to them. I can testify, particularly in the second case, that they are acutely aware of what is missing from such documents: namely, some affective indication of resistance from below, who does it, how they work and why. What has been achieved in such cartography projects, however, is a contribution to the very large-scale effort to rebuild a critical grasp of the oppressive forces that create the dominant map of the world. This kind of power-mapping is a necessary prelude to any effective resistance or counter-proposition. The fact that the difference between such efforts and the current military maps used by the Pentagon does not appear clearly on American TV is hardly something you can blame the artists for! There is a difference between general culture critique and constructive critique directed toward people carrying out specific projects.
Somewhat like Coco Fusco, I often wonder why contemporary artists appear so broadly unable to infuse the dominant map with representations of - or even better, direct links to - the many and diverse dissenting groups and alternative philosophies that are now emerging in the world, or that have remained active over decades. Unlike Coco Fusco, however, I don't think it's useful or necessary to berate artists today for not having been born earlier. The great philosophical frameworks of national liberation and egalitarian self-management that were able to articulate far-flung resistance movements in the past are inoperative in our time. The urgency is for real individuals of all generations, on all continents, to put their heads and hearts together and create new articulations. The specific job of writers and organizers is then to give those articulations conceptual clarity and popular currency, so that they can effectively challenge the absurd world-views presented on American TV.
As to artists, for whom the naked power structures of the contemporary world must now be quite visible, I encourage them to delve more deeply into the diverse efforts that are being made to resist the imposition of a homogeneous control structure on the entire world. This requires looking outside the boundaries of class, ethnicity and nationality, as certain artists and intellectuals of previous generations effectively did. To live up to the great examples of the past then means imagining something quite different for the future. Need it be said that certain kinds of imagination can serve as the first steps towards a transformation of reality?
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On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 17:08:11 -0300, ricardorosas ricardorosas@uol.com.br wrote:
Hi Lucia,
I think you should ask Trebor as for the software once it has many peculiarities which maybe just your students/programmers may understand. Trebor even asked me to talk to you about that.
Best Ricardo
Hi everybody,
I am looking to some articles on maps that I have written. As soon as I have found them I will post. (Unfortunatly it is not in English, yet...)
For the seminar on carthographies, I suggest we invite:
- Paola Berenstein Jacques, "Elogio aos errantes. Breve histórico das
errâncias urbanas" In: http://www.vitruvius.com.br/arquitextos/arq000/esp256.asp
- Maria Cecília Loschiavo dos Santos, professora da Faculdade de
Arquitetura e Urbanismo (FAU) da USP. Livre-docência. Faculdade de Arquitetura e Urbanismo USP, FAU USP, Brasil. Título: Cidades de Plástico e Papelão. O habitat informal dos moradores de rua em São Paulo, Los Angeles e Tóquio, Ano de obtenção: 2003.
ver : www.vivaocentro.org.br Morar na rua, uma tragédia humana. Informe Viva o Centro, São Paulo, p. 3- 3, 01 set. 2004.
-Mapa da exclusão/inclusão social de Aldaíza Sposati http://www.comciencia.br/reportagens/ppublicas/pp11.htm
- Evaldo Mocarzel, diretor de À Margem da Imagem (Documentário)
Other important references:
Livro/ Book:
- SNOW, David; ANDERSON, Leon. Desafortunados: um estudo sobre o povo
da rua. Petrópolis: Vozes, 1998. resenha em:
http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S0104-71832004000100016&script=sci_a...
- SNOW, David; ANDERSON, Leon. Down on Their Luck: A Study of Homeless
Street People. University of California Press, 1993.
Brian Holmes. Critique d'art, essayiste et traducteur, il vit à Paris et s'intéresse aux croisements entre art, économie politique et mouvements
sociaux
http://multitudes.samizdat.net/auteur.php3?id_auteur=465
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 12:22:42 -0300, ricardorosas wrote:
Trebor and everybody,
This message is in English for both Brazilians here and Trebor to understand, OK?
The meeting on Monday was very stimulant! Lots of things were thought, envisioned and planned!
So let´s start with more practical details. As for the map itself, it
was
decided the best region to explored, given the peolpe who will do the
work
and the best and appropriate conditions, is Santo Amaro, a district with lots of interesting charcteristics, related, among others, to migration,
bad
social conditions and such. Also, it´s good not to focus, by now, on downtown, but start with a small initiative, one that can be done more easily, also because Lucia is already working in the region. And also because, as it seems, there is lready a map from Santo Amaro being
designed.
Is it that way, Lucia? Lucia has got some people who can work on the software, such as making some changes, including the dots, maybe even thinking about uploads by cell phone. Such are things to be discussed,
and
Trebor may have some suggestions and instructions of the use of the
software
for Lucia. I do think it is a crucial thing to be to thought once that´s
all
what this project is about.
Second thing is the other steps on the involvement with the project.
Artur
Matuck suggested we to study some texts and stuff related to
cartographies
and maps, so there is the blog that Trebor opened for us to upload with
our
material and we need its log in and password. For the time being we´re already using a simpler blog opened by Fabiane (http://cartografias.blogspot.com/) in which some texts (in Portuguese)
are
already posted. It´s good that all of us post material we find
essential.
Let´s maybe just wait for Trebor to tell us the log ins and passwords to
be
used in the blog.
Following this are two possible events related to the project wich were suggested by Lucia and Artur. Lucia is having this small workshop in
SENAC
Santo Amaro in May called "Derivas" (Driftings), which will try to apply
in
a practical way some psychogeographical notions and explore the district with cameras, narratives, recorders, and such. Different driftings in
the
streets of Santo Amaro. The event may also host sort of a closed
conference
dealing with the Submap project, in which some of us will be presenting notions related to the project and goiving some basis on the current use
of
cartography. It will serve for us to know each other and also to write
some
material on the project and related subjects, such as the work of
Trebor,
the use of the city by social movements (in the case of Fabiane),
Lucia´s
work with cartographies, and such. We can likely have the presence of
Brian
Holmes (he´s currently in Argentina), who can be paid to come here and
tell
us his experiences with maps and its uses. At least we hope he can come
we´ve got to contact him as soon as possible, so, Fabi, don´t forget to
send
him an e-mail! From this event may also come out a publication, so it´s
good
for you all to think about a text related to the project.
But that publication may be released in another (now bigger) event which we´re thinking on suggesting SESC (that can very likely embrace it),
that
would deal with "Maps and Territories". For that, we can think of
inviting
some people to make lectures and even think about some sort of
exhibition (I
particularly thought about asking Brian Holmes and Bureau d`Etudes to
send
their maps to occupy a whole exhibition room in SESC Pompeia) and of
course
the release of the submap project along with the working map of Santo
Amaro.
That event would be done by the end of the second semester, and it´s something yet to be decided and thought with more time and detail.
Well, that was what we basically discussed. Any other details, please
Fabi,
Matuck and Lucia include here. All the others, please ask your doubts
and
questions!
Cheers Ricardo _______________________________________________ Edu mailing list Edu@bbs.thing.net http://mailman.thing.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edu
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